View Single Post
Old 09-14-2005, 08:31 AM   #130 (permalink)
stevo
Rail Baron
 
stevo's Avatar
 
Location: Tallyfla
Quote:
Originally Posted by smooth
Why do you keep posting comments like this?
You act as though all the poor, black residents were unemployed and on welfare.
Where are you pulling this information from, if not your own predispositions?
Perhaps you misunderstood me. I did not mean to imply that all the poor black residents were unemployed and on welfare. There were many people that couldn't evacuate that were not on welfare. The point I was making was that Louisiana and New Orleans created and ran a welfare state for the last half a century. It was this created welfare state, as well as a poor education system and corrupt government officials, that kept the people poor. While the people with means were able to leave, people without means had no choice. Now why did they have no means? What was it that caused them to be poor, employed or not, actually receiving cash welfare payments or not? I argue that it was the welfare-state and handouts created by liberalism in New Orleans. I argue that it was the system "created to help the poor and needy" that kept them poor and needy, and that is why they couldn't evacuate. I also argue that when the government allows the people to rely on them for assistance, they had a responsibility to not leave them alone in a time of crisis, but give them an equal opportunity to leave the city as any wealthy citizen has (That is the liberal ideal, is it not?). I argue that it is that local governments' responsibility to evacuate the dependent.

Here's a quick breakdown of the welfare state in New Orleans created by Louisiana:

Background statistics -
Total pop: 485,000
Black pop: 326,000 (Why are so many of the poor black? Because there are a high percentage of African Americans in New Orleans)

as of 11/20/03
43,650 (9% of pop) NO citizens recieve cash welfare payout
82,450 (17%) of NO citizents reside in public or subsidized housing
43% of households in NO did not have a vehicle
Of married families in NO, 17% had no spouse employed
28% of NO families had no adult employed
82% of low-income families in NO are African American

http://www.state.la.us/tanf/needsassess.htm

Quote:
Originally Posted by pan6467
I guess you missed the whole point of not dividing the nation further and keeping politics and partisanship out of saving people's lives.....

Aw well, some people understand and some don't let's hope to God the majority get over the Goddamned partisan politics and finger pointing bullshit.
I think the way to save people's lives is to find the problems that caused such a disproportionate percentage of the population to be poor and dependent on the government. If we can solve these problems, next time people will have the means to save themselves and there will be no one to blame. Don't you agree that we should take an in-depth look at the root of these problems? Ignoring them because they appear partisan does not solve it, but looking into the root of the problem does.
__________________
"If I am such a genius why am I drunk, lost in the desert, with a bullet in my ass?" -Otto Mannkusser
stevo is offline  
 

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360