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Originally Posted by martinguerre
There was some sort of hate involved. People don't strangle, beat, and bury people for no reason. It's called a motive. The motive in this case is that these men felt threatened by the fact that this woman was natally (and i'm assuming from the article physiologically) male. We discriminate about motives all the time. it's often the difference between manslaughter and murder (or various degrees of each), for example. The mens rea, the mind set that produces criminal behavior is important in how we classify it. A murder for profit is considered a more serious crime than a crime of anger (regardless of premeditation). An assault that intends to keep people from voting is more likely to draw a stiff sentance than one that happens in the context of an argument over a game of darts. A sexual assault against a minor is more serious than one against an adult.
I'm sick to death of all this talk as if hate crimes laws were the only time we cared about motive or the idenity of the victim. Our justice system would be dumb as a brick if the only thing we cared about was the actions.
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exactly why I'm not so sure of it NOT being a hate crime as this out of ALL the others discussed in the past ring clear as day as a hate/bias crime.
The only time we care about them being hate or bias crimes is in these types of situations, yet if say it was one white guy who hated another white guy it's still not a hate/bias crime.
It's not the judicial system that is dumb as bricks it's the people that blindly accept the media stating something as a bias crime, ala Tawana Brawley and her shenanigans against Steven Pagones basically ruining his life and career based on a hate crime lie.
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