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Old 09-13-2005, 09:02 AM   #128 (permalink)
ZeliG
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Originally Posted by Daniel_
Hardly a shock that some non-Americans dislike some Americans.

Just remember, America, that all the goods you take for granted are made by the people that you shit on every day. One day they will tell you to fuck off, and your economy will be toast.

If you don't believe me, ask the Romans, The Mongols, The Great British Empire, The Soviets.

History does not repeat itself, but it certainly RHYMES.
Now, not to pick on you again but I am tired people bringing this whole Empire collapsing thing that seems to be so popular...
You have just listed the most ofted listed "empires" that have withered.

Now, the roman empire as you can recall had many stages of development does that mean that while Rome was a republic it was withering to be forgoten for all time? Should we count the Empire period as seperate? What I am trying to illustrte here is that there are many times a country/empire/allot of things will have a period of decline but will then spring back up or they just slowly fade away its kinda silly to imply that the later is what is happening when nobody can really predict the future. The US could end being the world's superpower or it could continue as it has for many decades or it could again be in competition with another superpower and have a real drive or it could lets say merge with Canada and Mexico forming the ultrapower of the North American Aliance... can you really say?...( people think that is crazy but in a century look at what has happened to Europe )
Why dont we look at other empires for a change. What about the Chinese empire?... I know it goes under a different name now but essentialy it is the same thing as before only under a different organization. Did it collapse?... It was pretty much controlled by western powers for a good while there but now it is booming and seems to be becoming a superpower.... Does this count?..
Oh and speaking of which, by mongols did you mean the ones that swept through Europe only to veer off and blend with the local population or the ones that took over china ( Marco Polo did in fact deal with Mongol ruled China ) Does that count as an empire fading?

I hope we all can see that things change, bar none. People seem to love to compare the US to the roman empire for some reason though... and I know you said RHYMES, but that still is too big an oversimplification. I see this too often in forums that sometimes its like hearing Bush's speeches, one phrase repeated over and over until it looses meaning and people accept it ( Sorry if you find the comparison ufavorable ).

Anyways...
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