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Old 09-12-2005, 07:52 PM   #194 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Fremen
Wouldn't they be able to tell that there was something different with Adama when they were performing surgery on him, if he was a Cylon?
You know, you'd think so, wouldn't you? But I have to argue, would they even know what they were looking for? The skin-jobs seem to be...I don't know... a lot more fragile than their toaster cousins. I mean a precise shot the head seems to be about the only way to kill the toasters short of blowing them to pieces. On Caprica, Six was killed twice: once when she was shot in the back and once during her skirmish with Starbuck when she was pierced with some rebar (I'm not sure how to spell it, but it's the stuff you stick in concrete to make it both stronger and more flexible.) Not to mention that Galactica-Boomer was killed with a single shot during her "Oswald" walk by Cally. I don't know if that makes a difference, but it seems to imply, to me at least, that the skin-jobs are more human than toaster, so, maybe the differences aren't that noticeable, even to the trained eye. Which brings up another interesting point, in my opinion. Why haven't they disected one the skin-jobs? They had Leoben, they had Doral, they had the body of Boomer. If they're 'just machines' why not shoot one and cut it open? If the threat of skin-jobs infilitrating the fleet is so important, wouldn't it be in the fleet's best interest to know all they possibly could about their enemy, all things considered?

Mondak: That's certainly part of it. During the first season, it was Adama who pulled the fleet together, it was Adama who beat the crap out the first Leoben, authorized leaving Doral behind at the weapons depot, pulled the second Leoben out for interrogation and, ultimately, it was Adama who almost died when Galactica-Boomer pumped him full of lead. I just find it hard to believe that that Adama would allow the second Boomer on his ship after they found the tomb and she outlived her usefulness. It reeks and there's certainly more to it, but I just can't quite put my finger on it.

The President seems to be the only one with the right idea; Push 'em out the airlock and all that. After all, like Adama said, "They have a plan."

Speaking of the grand plan. That's an awful lot of planning, not to mention an awful lot of luck to pull of something like you describe. Here's the thing that kept popping up when I read your post, remember during the first season...specifically the episode where Six was going to 'out' Baltar? Remember she just popped up on Galactica and then disappeared? She can't just be in Baltar's head (aside from the fact that everyone else saw her there) we have confirmation that she's not a chip in Baltar's brain nor is she some psychotic manifestation of the good doctor's. So....if Six can 'pop-in' and 'pop-out' at will, why can't the others as well? 50,000 people on 50 some odd ships and their going to sneak in multiple copies of 12 skin-jobs?Less than that, really. Remember, some of the skin-jobs' covers have been totally blown. Another Leoben, another Doral another Sharon, or another Xena are bound to raise some flags, somewhere, right?

I don't think Adama is a cylon. The skin-jobs seem to be unique, meaning it must be a difficult to create them as they've got only 12 models. Not to mention, the baby farms from what I could glean from that single episode, don't seem to be all that successful.

Story wise, it seems like it would be a lot easier to make the President a Cylon. I mean, of all the high ranking government officials, she just happened to be in the clear when the bombs went off. But even that doesn't make a whole lot of sense, knowing what we know about Laura. She shows enormous compassion for the humans, none for the Cylons and she has cancer. So...all that's an act, plus they gave her cancer? Not to mention, the religious undertones... I mean, is a prophecy fulfilled if it's fulfilled on purpose by outside agents? If the Cylons do indeed have no idea where Earth is (assuming they want us to get to Earth at all) and their only way to obtain that information is by fulfilling some ancient prophecy, would they screw it up by substituting their own "Moses?"

A lot of thoughts there, I hope they made some sense.

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