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Originally Posted by Daniel_
Excuse me while I soil myself laughing.
England was the world's only superpower a century ago, and we got our asses kicked by all maner of "weaker" countries.
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Different situation. The British Empire was spread out across the world, and were usually greatly outnumbered where they had outposts. they didn't have concentrated forces.
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The US would win against China?
That's crazy talk, Mr Smithee. You are getting your asses kicked in Iraq by a bunch of terrorists.
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Wrong. We won the war, we are losing the police action. The Iraqi army was routed. And I think their body count is significantly higher than ours.
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You got kicked in the 'nads by Vietnam all those years ago.
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We failed our objective. But considering that war a "loss" is a bit extreme. THe body count would show us quite on the plus side. Also, the military was never authorized to go into N. Vietnam. Had we gone there, things would've been much different.
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There is no conceivable way that the US could win a foreign war agaist China. They can bankrupt you. They outnumber you. They don't have to worry about the government beig called to account for the massive death toll of their people.
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This is blatantly false. They coudn't bankrupt us. And them outnumbering us is meaningless. All that means is that they can get more chumps armed with pitchforks to die. If they were to attempt to fight anything resembling a conventional war (where there is actual identifiable armies) they would be greatly outgunned. The onlly thing in that section that would be relevant is the fact that the Chinese gov't wouldn't be called to task for death toll or war crimes. That would be their only advantage.
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You know why Napoleon couldn't take Russia? It was largely down to support at hme evaporating.
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Napoleon didn't take Russia because he tried to go into Russia too late, so that winter hit and greatly sapped the morale and fighting ability of the French troops. Also, in Russia he was too reliant on non-native fighters.
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You know why Germany lost the first world war? At the time of the armistice not a square inch or German soil had been taken by military force. However the gvernment was collapsing because peopleno longer supported the war.
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They opened up two fronts, and their fighting ability was sapped. Also, America arrived to bolster the Allied forces. The writing was on the wall, the surrender was to conserve the inevitable loss of life that having an occupying force invade would do. In WWI, the public was actually very supportive of the war.
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How many flag draped coffins would it take for the government to be overturned?
1,000?
10,000?
Even if you had a kill rate of 200:1 (better than Iraq, and China is stronger than Iraq), they have BILLIONS of people. To kill 5% of their population would cost you over 1,000,000 dead.
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You assume that the entirety of their population would have to be killed. I was not assuming that the US could just causually march into China and take them over. I am saying that in an outside field, the US would win. (And I think it would be hard, but I think enough causalties could be caused in mainland china to force surrender or greatly hurt the gov't. China would have approx. zero chance of doing the same to the US because their navy isn't any where near as advanced as is the US's).