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Originally Posted by Marvelous Marv
Yes, I seem to remember that.
/sarcasm
I assume you interpret "shall not be infringed" to mean something different than the definitions in the dictionary.
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No, but what the framers actually meant by "the people" (whether it refers to individuals or the states) has been hotly debated over the years. Your individual right to bear arms may not equate to your state's right to maintain a militia.
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I'm not quite sure why you're explaining this to me. I'd have preferred an explanation on the propriety of the government forcing, for example, an 80-year-old widow to rent to someone that daily violates that widow's religious beliefs.
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The reason I discuss property rights in my post is because the second amendment has no relevence to this situation. The property rights enjoyed by Conoco to regulate what happens on their property take precedence. The Amendment speaks to what the GOVERNMENT can do. Not what a private property holder can allow or prohibit.
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That's what's being debated in this thread. However, the second amendment was intended to do exactly that. And to act as a check upon oppressive governments.
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Your contention about what the second amendment protects is wrong, but your contention as to it's purpose (and that of most of the bill of rights) is exactly correct.
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All of which are provided at company expense, unlike personal firearms.
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This is not germane.
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That's the whole point. We're debating whether or not this company policy violates the second amendment.  |
That's my point. It doesn't. Conoco is not a governmental entity, therefore their refusal to allow firearms on their property is not a violation of the second amendment.
You also have to understand that an overwhelming public interest can preclude certain rights, which is why you can't take your gun into a courthouse. In this case, the interest is public safety.