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Originally Posted by Lasereth
host mentioned Michael Moore in one of his posts. I can't stand it when people don't know the truth about Moore, so any time he is mentioned I sort of go off on a tangent about him. It was mentioned that Moore is not the enemy. Well, he's a liar, so I guess Bush isn't the enemy either. One might argue that Moore has no effect on citizens and that Bush is the POTUS...but this entire thread is based on lying. I know MM isn't the point of this thread, and I'm not meaning to argue that Bush isn't a liar. What I will argue to the death is using Michael Moore in any form of positive way concerning politics.
-Lasereth
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I "mentioned" Moore because this post, on another thread, is burned into my mind, and I wanted to pre-empt the use of the "Moore"/moveon.org "card" that I expected would be "played" as a substitute for a substantative rebuttal.
You may use the "Moore" asssociation among yourselves, in as a means to promote solidarity for your reflexive support of the POTUS, but the rest of us don't get it, when you trot it out.
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Originally Posted by Bodyhammer86
I think this post from the real police forums explains why she's just a political pawn whoring off of her son's death:
Not to mention she has recently turned anti-Israel and is affiliated with moveon.org and Michael Moore.
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Bush's reputation did not rise in stature when Sheehan was cut down by associating her with Moore/moveon.org, and Bush will continue to enjoy a reputation by 50 percent and still growing numbers of Americans as a liar as a substitute for leadership in crisis. He had to be aware of the polled opinions of his credibility before his "levee lie", and he still did it. Michael Moore is a documentary film maker who is excellent at self-promotion, and moveon.org is the web address of a PAC that has an agenda that you may not necessarily agree with. Bush has his own dismal record and reputation now, with poll numbers that are becoming more appropriate for the gravity of the circumstances that he has steered himself and the country into.
Moore and moveon.org are irrelevant in a defense of Bush's performance and veracity.
Lebell, it is ironic that the only example that you posted to buttress your opinion of my level of credibility related to the content of my posts on these threads is a citation of a mistake that I made that I apologized for, even as I took the high road regarding the manner in which my mistake was brought to my attentiion.......
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and Lebell, this is what you posted about me:
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Originally Posted by Lebell
.......As to the sources Host presents, I have seen too many examples of his taking questionable sources and posting them as "fact" for me to spend much time with them anymore. The latest was when he posted a satire piece from whitehouse.org to prove a point. In other posts he has been known to take excerpts that support his positionand leave the ones behind that don't. I've also seen him take blogs and post them as support.
Frankly, I don't have time or the inclination to try and track his "sources" down and expose their inconsistencies anymore.
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It doesn't seem fair because you announce in advance that you won't make the time or the effort to back up what you are accusing me of, or afford me your attention when I attempt to defend myself with regard to examples of my insufficiencies, which you say you won't make the effort to post.