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Old 09-04-2005, 09:47 PM   #40 (permalink)
djtestudo
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Originally Posted by Stompy
Oh boy, here we go... honestly now, hahaha, what proof do you need? Want me to carry a video recorder around and attempt to sign up and show you how the process works? Want me to send you links to websites that you'll immediately discredit? Not gonna waste my time - use common sense.

I mean seriously, it's kinda well known that these people lie... I'm not sure why people are acting like they don't. No, not ALL of them lie, just like not ALL lawyers are bad, but there's certainly a good amount - high enough to where you should be worried.

Recruiters are pests and will say just about anything you wanna hear to get you to sign up. I personally experienced it and my friends did too.

They called me up trying to get me to join, and I told them, "look, I know you're just doing what you're told, but I really don't need to waste my life with this stuff. I already have a career as a computer programmer and things are going great for me, why in the world would I drop all of that and risk what I have going for me?" (I was 18 at the time, just before grad).. the recruiter quickly proceeded to into the "well if you just come down here and sign, we can discuss the details and work out a plan for you!"

Right, he must thing I'm fuckin stupid.

You aren't guaranteed a position in the military. You know this, I know this. The thing was, I was actually considering it for a while as long as I was guranteed that programming assignment, but my grandpa and uncle, who both served, talked me out of it.

That was the best thing they ever did, because I would've completely wasted my talent and missed out on establishing and securing my future at such a young age.

Keep in mind I'm also 24. Maybe they didn't do this so much back when most of you were in high school, but it is WELL known, at least around here, that military recruiters are scum that will do just about anything to try and sucker you into signing up.

In fact, someone I was friends with in high school with was suckered into it. He was promised tons of amazing things and fell for the whole sales pitch. He signed up, was TOTALLY excited before leaving, and when I had talked to him years later.. he told me it was the biggest mistake of his life, and that nothing he was promised came true at all. He wanted to kill that recruiter.

If people WANT to serve, then... let them volunteer. Don't solicit them and try to manipulate them into signing up - THAT is where my problem is.

And, IMO, serving in the military these days doesn't carry honor it once had.. not so much as long as this country's reputation is going down the hole. People might be growing weary of those looking down upon soldiers, but I'm growing weary of blind patriotism that people think they feel they should have to have.
http://www.rivier.edu/faculty/dburge.../fallicies.htm

See: Hasty Generalization, Unrepresentative Sample.

Just because you had one experiance with one recruiter doesn't mean that every one is like that.

All my experiances with recruiters were very simple: They call, I say I'm not interested, they say, "Thank you," and hang up. That goes over several years, and from all four branches.

Maybe I'm just lucky.

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Originally Posted by cellophanedeity
Umm... educate the little Canuck.

What's this Selective Service thing all about?

Is it really manditory? What is it for? What happens if you don't sign up?
At the age of eighteen, every male must sign up for draft eligibility. Since there is no draft in the US right now, it isn't a worry; it's essentially keeping the draft mechanism open and working just in case.
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