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Old 09-04-2005, 08:54 PM   #8 (permalink)
j8ear
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Originally Posted by docbungle
Well, as with any opinion piece regarding this situation, I agree with a few of the things said here...and see a lot more things as being just as overly simplistic as the views of those the author criticizes.
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Originally Posted by Hardknock
....he has to resort to making idiotic statements such as this just to get some attention.
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Originally Posted by pan6467
Doesn't surprise me, Ben Stein was a Nixon defender and is as partisan and as pushing any responsibility as possible onto others.
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Originally Posted by aberkok
Some constructive points, but as pan said, it's hugely partisan. I also think it's really bad form to make points by asking a bunch of questions, as Stein did in the update to the original letter. They tend to lead you right to the desired answer. Too bad, I used to like Ben Stein.
Not a single attempt to refute anything that was presented in the Ben Stein piece, and honestly, nothing but fallacies from the lot of you.

Well done folks...

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Originally Posted by jonjon42
...the restructering of FEMA into the Homeland security department seems to have caused some issues with it, since this is possibly one of the worst responses they've have had in an otherwise good history.
This I can get behind 100%.

Personally, I still think that Ray Naglin is a worthless piece of garbage, and the debacle following this natural disaster is largely his fault. I also think, that DHS and it's swallowing up of FEMA, plays a sizable roll in where things stand now. The largest beauracracy ever created was doomed to failure, and hey...that's what it has done, will do, and the only solution we'll ever see to this problem is to increase its size and scope. Governement in action. Large scale mediocracy and failure for everyone.

Amazing.

Wake up people...wake up.

-bear

PS I caught this online today and thought it worth sharing:

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Originally Posted by catallarchy.net

this post:

Rarely has it been so clear how much we, the ordinary people of this country, are better than our rulers. I hope that lesson is not lost on anyone, of any political persuasion. We are better than them and there is no good reason anymore -- if ever there was -- to keep on putting up with their lies.
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