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As stated in my original question, things that we cannot at present (or ever) predict arent truely random simply because we cant grasp the governing principles or analyse or even measure the near infinite amounts of data involved.
The roll of a dice is as complex as human thought when considering it from a basic natural point of view, both are affected by a vast amounts of highly complex systems.
It has to be something totally random by nature, and i dont think such an example exists. The way an electron moves is not random, even if youd need to consider every other particle in the universe that ever existed since big bang and all their characteristics, it seems very likely that it can be predicted in theory, if never in practise.
The usefulness of determining if randomness can exist has use not only to a god, but also to consider if free will can exist without a god.
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