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Old 09-02-2005, 03:42 PM   #99 (permalink)
hamsterdancer
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Originally Posted by pan6467
I am not discriminating against anyone.
Of course you are. You are saying that certain people are not welcome at your business because they choose to exercise their constitutionally enumerated rights.

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I simply said you carry a gun on my property YOU WILL leave or the police wil escort you. As a business owner, you have the right to refuse service.
How would the police get there? After all, you're barring people with guns from your property, right? Are you going to require them to disarm before they come in?

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If you choose to carry a gun on my property and I throw you off.... then sue me and see who wins. 99.99% sure it would be me, and I would make sure you paid my lawyers fees, and countersue for defamation.
Are you in England? Because that's the legal system you're describing...it's called "loser pays", and isn't how the US court system operates. Also, you are precluded from filing a defamation suit for statements in court proceedings.

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I'm not being prejudiced against anyone, I am not saying you cannot defend yourself, and I am not saying outside of my property you can't carry a gun.... but my RIGHTS to MY PROPERTY supercede your rights to have a gun on it. You have the choice to do business with me or not.... if you choose to then you leave the gun outside off my property... if you don't I have you escorted off. Plain and simple.... want to carry a gun... stay off my property.
Sure you are being prejudiced, against people with CCW permits. You are not discriminating based upon skin color, you're discriminating based upon their exercise of their civil liberties.

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Why is it illegal to carry a gun within I believe 500 feet of a school or church???????? Is that not this prejudice and stomping on your rights that you talk of?
It's not illegal where I am. I am pretty sure it's not illegal where you are, because it would violate the Constitution in half a dozen different ways. For example, such a law would bar gun owners from living near schools or churches. That alone would make such a law unconstitutional.

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You never answered my theatre or Pat Robertson scenarios I noticed, instead you keep equating my choice of not wanting a gun on my property to racism, and other prejudice. I find your argument degrading and if you truly believe this.... then I again reiterate.... this is a prime example of why I would never support CCW, and why I would ban weapons from my business and why I would choose to boycott a business I feel guns should not be allowed in.
I didn't say it was racist, I said it was discriminatory and infringed upon a constitutionally enumerated right. There is a difference.


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but what happens on the Magnum roller coaster when someone's gun goes off by accident and kills my son??????

What happens when a pick pocket lifts your gun and uses it to shoot innocent people?

Perhaps it may never happen, and perhaps you are willing to take that risk and 100% firmly believe that neither of those or any similar scenario would ever happen.
Can you tell us of a single time that a holstered firearm "just went off" without a human being acting upon it? Can you tell us of a single documentable incident where somebody had a gun pickpocketed away from them? Please remember, firearms are very heavy, and most people would notice when somebody takes several pounds of steel out of their holster.

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However, all it takes is 1 time. And I can guarantee if I am innocently riding a roller coaster and someone's gun would go off by accident and kill my son.... I would not only own the park but I would make sure the man/woman who had the gun did prison time... and if not I would make sure through connected friends that that person never carried a gun to an amusement park again.
You have a strange idea about how the justice system works. And your "we must strip people of their civil liberties if it just saves one child's life" bit has grown pretty threadbare.

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