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Originally Posted by pan6467
I am not discriminating against anyone.
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Of course you are. You are saying that certain people are not welcome at your business because they choose to exercise their constitutionally enumerated rights.
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I simply said you carry a gun on my property YOU WILL leave or the police wil escort you. As a business owner, you have the right to refuse service.
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How would the police get there? After all, you're barring people with guns from your property, right? Are you going to require them to disarm before they come in?
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If you choose to carry a gun on my property and I throw you off.... then sue me and see who wins. 99.99% sure it would be me, and I would make sure you paid my lawyers fees, and countersue for defamation.
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Are you in England? Because that's the legal system you're describing...it's called "loser pays", and isn't how the US court system operates. Also, you are precluded from filing a defamation suit for statements in court proceedings.
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I'm not being prejudiced against anyone, I am not saying you cannot defend yourself, and I am not saying outside of my property you can't carry a gun.... but my RIGHTS to MY PROPERTY supercede your rights to have a gun on it. You have the choice to do business with me or not.... if you choose to then you leave the gun outside off my property... if you don't I have you escorted off. Plain and simple.... want to carry a gun... stay off my property.
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Sure you are being prejudiced, against people with CCW permits. You are not discriminating based upon skin color, you're discriminating based upon their exercise of their civil liberties.
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Why is it illegal to carry a gun within I believe 500 feet of a school or church???????? Is that not this prejudice and stomping on your rights that you talk of?
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It's not illegal where I am. I am pretty sure it's not illegal where you are, because it would violate the Constitution in half a dozen different ways. For example, such a law would bar gun owners from living near schools or churches. That alone would make such a law unconstitutional.
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You never answered my theatre or Pat Robertson scenarios I noticed, instead you keep equating my choice of not wanting a gun on my property to racism, and other prejudice. I find your argument degrading and if you truly believe this.... then I again reiterate.... this is a prime example of why I would never support CCW, and why I would ban weapons from my business and why I would choose to boycott a business I feel guns should not be allowed in.
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I didn't say it was racist, I said it was discriminatory and infringed upon a constitutionally enumerated right. There is a difference.
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but what happens on the Magnum roller coaster when someone's gun goes off by accident and kills my son??????
What happens when a pick pocket lifts your gun and uses it to shoot innocent people?
Perhaps it may never happen, and perhaps you are willing to take that risk and 100% firmly believe that neither of those or any similar scenario would ever happen.
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Can you tell us of a single time that a holstered firearm "just went off" without a human being acting upon it? Can you tell us of a single documentable incident where somebody had a gun pickpocketed away from them? Please remember, firearms are very heavy, and most people would notice when somebody takes several pounds of steel out of their holster.
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However, all it takes is 1 time. And I can guarantee if I am innocently riding a roller coaster and someone's gun would go off by accident and kill my son.... I would not only own the park but I would make sure the man/woman who had the gun did prison time... and if not I would make sure through connected friends that that person never carried a gun to an amusement park again.
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You have a strange idea about how the justice system works. And your "we must strip people of their civil liberties if it just saves one child's life" bit has grown pretty threadbare.