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Originally Posted by shakran
And if you really think you need a gun at work and you're not a cop or a soldier, you need to find a safer place of employment.
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Originally Posted by Dyze
First, I donīt see why you would want to live in a country where you have to carry a gun at every time to protect yourself.
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Nobdy
needs to carry a gun. Most of the time we're perfectly safe without them. If the unlikely situation arises that we are the victims of violence, we're just as free to become cause-of-death statistics as we are to carry guns to prevent that from happening
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Originally Posted by connyosis
Well I can see a reason for stopping it. There is simply no need for guns at work. Can you give me one good reason as why you have to bring your gun to work? Like I said earlier, the company is not forcing people to give up their guns or not allowing gun owners to work there, they are just asking them to leave their weapons at home. It's really not that big of a deal IMHO. After a days work they come home to their gun again. (Ok, that just made it sound like the gun was a puppy, but whatever...)
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I do go places between work and home. Between thsoe two, I could walk through a dark alley, be carjacked, or get mugged. The issue is that this kind of policy deprives us of a lot more than our right to carry at work.
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Originally Posted by Marvelous Marv
Even the feds, when they have a search warrant, have to specify what they're searching FOR. That's why some of their findings get tossed out of court. If the warrant says "drugs," they can't mention in court that they found, for example, child pornography.
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Not quite. If, for example, they have a warrant to search for an illegally imported giant panda, and the y search in your jewelry box, they're overstepping their bounds. On the other hand, if they have a warrant to search for a few pounds of weed and they find a stack of counterfeit money in a place where the drugs could have been found, then it's legal.
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Originally Posted by willravel
Unless your job requires it, no. I'm all for gun rights, but bringing a gun to work is like bringing a gun to school or church. It's an innapropriate time. Put it in a locked box in your car if you don't feel safe or going hunting or what have you.
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School shootings have been stopped by armed resistance, and if a few teachers at Columbine HS had been armed, then the shooters could possibly have been stopped before the police arrived and waited a few hours to go in.
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Originally Posted by connyosis
Yeah, and other stores where the clerk has a gun never gets robbed. You're right, silly me.
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They get robbed, but unarmed clerks can't defend themselves. Not everyone is happy with the cash, some shoot anyway. Two jewelrs in my town were gunned down by a robber as they knelt against the wall and pled for their lives by someone who wasn't satisfied with the half million dollars' worth of stuff he stole. During this time the silent alarm had failed to alert police, some of who were at the station a block away.
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Originally Posted by connyosis
That's a compromise I could accept. I'd be very uncomfortable with my coworkers wearing guns, (I mean, who's to say they wont freak out and start shooting all over the place  ) but if the company allowed them to bring their guns to the building entrance and drop them off to be locked in a safe gun cabinet, I'd say that's meeting both sides halfway. |
It amazes me that so many people expect policies against guns at the workplace to stop shootings. If they're willing to break the law by
killing everyone in the fucking office, they're not going to be stopped by a policy that lets the company fire them for having a gun. If there's a gun safe, there has to be a big enough hole in the window to shoot the guard and get himself a shitload of ammo and backup weapons. If you don't have a gun on you, you can't defend yourself. The good guys with guns aren't the ones you have to worry about. It's perfectly acceptable for an employer to require a CCW for you to be allowed to carry at work, and nobody is arguing that. You should be supporting those guys because they're the ones who are going to shoot back when crazy Johnnie from accounting gets pissed off by how much less he makes than you and decides to hunt you down.