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Originally Posted by samcol
Todays Republicans are not conservatives. Being conservative used to mean you believed in small, limited, and less intrusive government. Of course since 9/11 the opposite of all these conservative ideals has happened. Bush signed a budget (the largets every) that makes Bill Clinton look like a fiscal conservative. The Republicans have the house, the senate, the executive, the judicial, and most of the state governments as well. We should see government shrinking, not exploding at exponential levels. Clearly Republicans are not conservatives anymore, and it's time to face that fact.
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completely irrelevant to the discussion. there was no equating (or even mention) of republicans to conservatives.
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