I read that a retailer is taking Preorders... but only as packages with 4 games.. the 360 will be $700 and the Core will be $600 with all the crap they make ya buy... and no option yet to get just the system.
This is why I will prolly line up at Best Buy to get it, or wait til after xmas.
http://engadget.com/entry/1234000290055689/
PS the engadget website is great to read.