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Old 08-24-2005, 12:08 PM   #69 (permalink)
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The difference I'm speaking of is the difference between a mullah or sheikh saying this:

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Originally Posted by Osama Bin Laden
The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies--civilians and military--is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it, in order to liberate the al-Aqsa Mosque and the holy mosque from their grip, and in order for their armies to move out of all the lands of Islam, defeated and unable to threaten any Muslim. This is in accordance with the words of Almighty God, "and fight the pagans all together as they fight you all together," and "fight them until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in God."

This is in addition to the words of Almighty God "And why should ye not fight in the cause of God and of those who, being weak, are ill-treated and oppressed--women and children, whose cry is 'Our Lord, rescue us from this town, whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from thee one who will help!'"

We -- with God's help -- call on every Muslim who believes in God and wishes to be rewarded to comply with God's order to kill the Americans and plunder their money wherever and whenever they find it. We also call on Muslim ulema, leaders, youths, and soldiers to launch the raid on Satan's U.S. troops and the devil's supporters allying with them, and to displace those who are behind them so that they may learn a lesson.
And some blowhard on TV saying this:

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Originally Posted by Pat Robertson
"We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability...We don't need another $200 billion war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator. It's a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with."
There is a difference, equating the two is rediculous.

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Originally Posted by host
stevo...your argument seems poorly researched......Robertson's CBN received $132 million in donations in 2004, he is also founder and president of a college that boasts 3000 students. Bush is on record as endorsing his "ministry", being aligned with him politically, "spiritually", and philosphically. These folks are "corporatists" to a man, IMO. Chavez represents everything that they oppose....politically and economically..... Bush "plays" up to the Christian mullahs in the US in a disturbingly similar way to "secular" politicians in places like Iran do, to their "mullahs"!
none of that matters. he's not calling his followers to war, he was farting out a political fantasy.

This whole thing is rediculous. I'm not defending the man, but to equate robertsons remarks to those terrorist spokesfucks is retarted.
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