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Old 08-23-2005, 08:25 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by RCAlyra2004
Omniscience is somewhat paradoxical, in my opinion. If A being (we can say God for arguments sake) knows everything, it has "omniscience", and that implies foreknowledge and a perfect understanding of all that I have done and will do. I cannot therefore make any decisions that were not seen by "god" before they happen.
I agree. Omniscience, by definition, does not exclude future knowledge or potential knowledge of the future. An Omniscient being knows everything that was, is, and possibly could be.

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Originally Posted by RCAlyra2004
Scenario 1 - God is omniscient and therefore MUST also be omnipresent. I do not beleive you can have one without the other and here is why:

To have the attribute of Omniscience God would have seen the entire "tape" of my life. God would therefore have to control me or else face infinitley differing world every time I actually make a choice that differs.. either God would also have to be omnipresent in order to be able to manage the change from any one action that God or I may undertake or God would have to be Omnipresent in order to control me. If I am aware of God's Omniscience it becomes EVEN MORE imperative that God be Omnipotent. The reason for this is that I may now choose another course in life just to complicate things further. SO... for god to be truly omniscient she would have to have Complete control of me and all circumstances around me. I hope my writing lives up to the logic I am trying to portray here.
Your logic is okay, but you're making several suppositions that fail to hold water. Even if there was an omniscient being, it does not follow that that being wishes to have an active hand in what they observe. You're pre-supposing that an omniscient being is constantly and actively trying to instill order to lessen the amount of chaos the being would have to observe. But an omniscient being would be able to observe chaos or order with equal ease.
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