Pacifier

So you want to discuss ad infinitum?

Yes they refused, but still dropping a second bomb shorty after the other is not "sving lives" thats "oh we have another lets drop it"

So you rather kill 100000 civilians than let 883 soldiers (USS Indianapolis) die?

Well, I thought a adapt to the usual style of discussion here and repeat arguments until ppl. believe them.
I have giben you a shitload of sources of people you said that Japan would have surrendered without invasion and without the bombe. The sources included american and japanese. You haven't told me why you think that Nimitz, Eisenhower, MacArthur and others had no clue about the situation in the war.

Personally I think everthing is said here, you haven't convinced me and I obviously haven't convinced you.

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"It seems to me that the idea of a personal God is an anthropological concept which I cannot take seriously. I also cannot imagine some will or goal outside the human sphere. Science has been charged with undermining morality, but the charge is unjust. A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death
— Albert Einstein