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Old 08-16-2005, 10:47 PM   #38 (permalink)
Gilda
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Originally Posted by RusCrimson
I see a huge difference: viability. If you remove the embryo from the womb at 2 months, it will die on its own. If you remove it at 8 months, it may need an additional force beyond removal to kill it.

That being said, I believe that even removing the fetus with knowledge that it will die is "causing" its death.

I am opposed to all abortions, not just those made after the point of viability. This opposition is based in a simple argument:

(1) I was once an embryo (or fetus).
(2) I have always possessed a basic right not to be killed.
(3) The embryo (or fetus) that was me also possesses a basic right not to be killed.
(4) I do not deserve special treatment.
Therefore: All embryos (or fetuses) possess a right not to be killed.

Obviously, the main argument will be against (1), and I'd welcome discussion on it.
No, the main argument is against 2 and 3, assumptions that are really logical fallacies called "begging the question". You are assuming that your conclusion is true as one of the premises of your argument. The issue of abortion comes down to deciding at what point between conception and birth does the fetus A: become a person and thus B: enjoy the basic human right not to be killed. My A and B are your 2 and 3, and they are the heart of the abortion debate and cannot be used as premises without proving them first.

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