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Old 08-13-2005, 11:21 AM   #157 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by mrklixx
Where did the ship that that lifted them off of Caprica come from?

And I must have missed it in the pilot/mini series, but why is it again that they only have 8 skin jobs*? I mean if you can make yourself look just like the enemy, why make such a small number of "original"? Clearly the toasters are superior in strength and stamina so the only real use for the skin jobs is subterfuge, and once a models cover is "blown", that entire series is useless.
The ship that showed up was, presumably, the ship they were after when Kara got herself pinched. Although, I must admit, it was a bit convenient (I believe the literary term is 'deus ex machina') the way Moore wrote it's acquisition into the storyline.

As for the 8... I don't exactly remember when they mentioned the eight models. I want to say it was during the mini-series, but I'm not all that sure. I do know it was during a conversation with Baltar and Six that it was mentioned. I presume that there are so few Cylon skin-jobs because it's difficult to do. As for their worth, well...you're right, once a model is outed, it becomes pretty worthless, but only if the entire fleet knows about it. These ships are all pretty big and aren't in constant contact with each other (again, all presumptions). So, when the fleet wide search went out for Leoben (Flesh & Bone) future models of Leoben couldn't very well show up on any of the ships. And I can't imagine that another Boomer is going to show up without some serious questions being raised as her assassination was a pretty public event. However, other models seem to be fine. I mean, the 'reporter' Cylon for instance was left at the weapons depot (Ragnarok?) early on. The entire thing was handled aboard the Galactica itself, so, it wasn't all that difficult for another 'reporter' skin-job to move about the fleet and subsequently infilitrate and suicide bomb Galactica.


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Originally Posted by Mondak
Something didn't sit right with me either, but the thing is that it made the episode that much more compelling to me. I mean it is a little TOO convienient that the President took off for Kobol after what . . . a month has gone by that Starbuck has been gone? I have no idea. It is pretty unbelieveable but I suppose that kind of melarky is what will solidify Laura Roselin as a prophet.
You've hit the nail on the head. Maybe it's just these last few episodes and I assume it's simply to the further the storyline along enough to get to the really good stuff, but Moore has been taking the easy route a lot lately. All these conveniences and coincidences that just keep happening. I mentioned it above when I was talking about the raider Sharon snagged, but that's certainly not the only example. Starbuck is on Caprica, meets this guy and falls in love with him after what seems like just a few days? In one episode she's playfully flirting with him while playing ball and the next (a few days later?) she's sleeping with him and professing love? I get it in the sense that the story must be moved along and right quick considering this is television, but it's such a leap in logic that it's almost...unbelievable to a fault.

Laura spends an inordinate amount of time aboard the Astral Queen, which is Zarak's ship and should've been one of the first searched considering he's a member of the Quorom of Twelve. I mean, it doesn't take a genius to suppose that the Quorom is hiding her and it isn't a big stretch of imagination that Lee would take her to Zarak - the least likely member to hide her and the only member, as far as I know, to have his own personal ship.

Sharon single handedly snags a Cylon Raider (remember she was the only one on board and the resistance on the ground didn't seem all that sure it was a 'friendly') to save the day?

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Here is the big thing that was pissing me off though when I was trying to get to sleep: snip
Yeah, it's the whole deus ex thing again. I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but American fighter jets have transponders on them to locate them, god forbid, they should be stolen, hi-jacked or whatnot, right? Is it too much to assume that the Cylons have mastered interstellar flight, but not the homing beacon? Assuming Boomer disabled it, you better believe that they're going to be looking for it. Parking it in the middle of 'Resistance HQ' wasn't the smartest thing...

But even all that I can overlook and write it off as some master plan of the Cylons (We'll ignore the ship and let them think they got away to further our grand design). The problem with Sharon...no questions. Nobody asked any questions. She showed up out of the blue from behind a tree and all fears were calmed by Helo simply saying "She's one of us." Where did she come from? Why wasn't she with you when we picked you up? Why didn't either of you mention her before? None of these questions were asked and no satisfactory answers were given. Even when Caprica-Boomer starts spouting off all the Cylon shit at the end in the huddle, using a lot of 'we's' (blantantly implying she's a Cylon), Anders says nothing. Now I assume, he's been on Caprica for a while...long enough to know that there are humans (He might not know about the skin-jobs) working with the Cylons...wouldn't he be a little suspicious?


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- BALTAR IS THE 6TH MODEL. Yep - he is a POS and he has no idea that he is a CYLON.

Either way - the next episode is going to be very interesting.
*GASP That hurts. That really hurts.

No seriously. A friend of mine brought this one up recently and I'll write here what I told him. I don't think Baltar is a Cylon. Not because I have some sort of man-crush on him ( ), but rather because he seems too important. All this effort, all this time, all the machinations of Six to get Baltar to see the Cylon's side of things is too much, in my opinion. Wouldn't it have been easier just to put in an already willing copy of Baltar, if indeed Baltar is a Cylon? They've already shown that infiltrating the fleet is easy-- Six shows up and then subsequently disappears, they manage to replace the 'reporter' skin-job to suicide bomb the Galactica, so on and so forth. So access to the fleet for the Cylons isn't a problem. No, Baltar is a human, which makes his betrayal of the human race all that much more dispicable.
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