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Old 08-07-2005, 01:32 AM   #3 (permalink)
pennywise121
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ah, good i can catch a thread like this before it explodes (i always seem to have the worst luck).

now, the presupposition here, and with your original post is the concept of time. if time applies to god (in whatever form/type/religion) as it does to us, then there is no free will, as god knows what will happen in that little book of hers/his/its where everything is written (be it a physical, mental, metabolic, whatever type of book/mind, etc. it may be), and we are bound to it. if, however, time is meaningless to this diety, we are free to have all the free will we wish, because we cannot ascribe the concept of before or after to such a being (this is the most clever explanation i have heard for having both a god and free will, even christians hate to think they have no control -except for in AA )

anyway, with that out of the way, here is my answer: ........maybe.
see, think about some of the major things that influence the course our lives take- we could not choose our parents, our ethnicity, our socioeconomic status, our birth country/area, etc. these things inherently limit (or expand) our possible life acheivements. so on that count, no. no free will.

we are, however, able to transcend many of these problems. besides, we chose what to eat this morning, didnt we? (that is, within the confines of what we had in the house or within driving distance, given the limitations of our income, transportation, what the store had in stock, etc.) now you see how complicated this gets, and very quickly but in this regard, yes, free will.

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