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Old 07-31-2005, 05:33 PM   #63 (permalink)
martinguerre
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Originally Posted by pan6467
Whoa whoa whoa....... the use of African American, Asian American, whatever-American peturbs me to no end.

WE ARE ALL FUCKING AMERICANS FIRST, and if you have to put a label that draws attention to BS then you are part of the problem.
The use of color-blind logic that ignores the real effects of race in american culture perturbs me. But you don't see me using all caps and cuss words.

Nor did i mention the doctrine of sins of the father. i wasn't even going to talk about Native peoples' claim to the land, til you mentioned it. Nothing i'm talking about is in the past. The problem, now, is disproportional access to opportunity. The cause has a lot to do with the past, but hte issue is in the here and now.

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Again, by stating "To me...." is my OPINION ONLY. It is how I feel, period.
And i told you i disagreed, and that i thought your rhetoric was short of facts and long on unjustified optimism. I also said that my opinion of your opinion was that it was racially prejudiced. I don't expect a reply to this, but i'm not sure what reaction you wanted by telling me that this was your opinion. I know that, you posted it, and you explained some of your logic. But so far, i haven't seen anything that changes my assessment of your original posting.

I don't really have anything else to say to the rest of it. I think it's a total strawman if you directed it me. Nothing i stated could possibly be construed to indicate that i thought that sucess identified racial minorites were race traitors or part oft he problem. I simply identified the mechanism by which some of those people do dis-identify, and the fact that popular culture (including white cultural expressions) have a major role in that process. So back off with the uncle tom stuff. It's just plain uncalled for.
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