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Old 07-31-2005, 12:41 PM   #60 (permalink)
pan6467
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Originally Posted by martinguerre
pan, i just don't see how you can claim that racism does not exist, or is the fault of opportunitist minorities. To me, that is a incredibly prejudicial claim, and one that i did not expect from you.
I did not say racism does not exist..... I said I have not seen it. If anything I have seen reverse racism.

If you would have read the whole post you would see my argument.

There are those who flaunt their minorities and live lives of crime because that is the environment they know...... It is NOT A RACIST problem. It is a problem of finding ways to educate, get drugs out of that environment, build self esteems, and finding ways to give hope to these people, who ARE OF ALL RACES AND LIVE IN THESE ENVIRONS.

Is Welfare the answer?

NO, been tried it was abused and while it does help some, it has been proven to promote stagnation of that life in poverty. Welfare was the slave system repeated in different ways. It was keeping the blacks and poor out of the way..... free money (barely enough to live on but enough), low rent projects = high crime, low self esteems, no desire to move upward.

Are quotas or Affirmative Action the answer?

NO, it by it's very nature promotes racism on both sides, and prevents the most qualified applicant to get the job. You show me 1 minority owned company that has to hire a white male to meet quota. I have a feeling you can't. It does not help the minorities to better themselves if they know they can get away with doing less.

So what IS the answer?

Education, Education and I repeat EDUCATION. If we spent the money on education that we spent on welfare or trying to enforce and investigate Affirmative Action cases, we would have the highest educated, most dedicated workforce in the world. (I say dedicated because with strong funded education ALL people would have the oppurtunities to advance and move upward.)

I will say this, the GOP talking heads are right, the Dems don't like to hear this. They prefer to back the Al Sharptons, Louis Farakhans, Jesse Jacksons, NOW, whatever, that continually tell us how bad minorities have it and truly do nothing to educate people out of the ghettoes.

To some this maybe racist, but I have seen it and I despise it. We do not do anyone justice by throwing money in programs like welfare or enforcing prejudicial by it's existence laws, as is the case with AA.

Now, the GOP is not innocent either, they choose to focus on the negative aspects of the failed programs and refuse to try to come up with an answer except trickle down economics.... which by it's own name should tell you something.

The GOP would want to ignore the problems and not do anything to change wxcept cut funding to ALL social programs including EDUCATION.... which is idiotic because then you have slums noone can afford to live in and no education to advance. Thus crime rates will skyrocket as will drug use and poverty.

The ONLY solution is to finance education and jobs that use those degrees to the max and help those who use the system properly to advance themselves.

Yes, there will be those using it for the wrong reasons, but far fewer than welfare allowed..... it gives a true equal playing field to all races, sexes and ethnicities because the education is there.... and it builds self esteem....

But you have to fund education equally not even ask race/sex/ethnicity questions ON any school application. Give funding equally to all and see what happens..... and I can almost guarantee all this talk of prejudice, AA, etc. will be forgotten.

BTW I don't need bullshit tests or slogans or people lecturing me on prejudices..... I judge a person on 2 things only: the respect they shows me (if they respect me as I respect them) and attitude. If I see a person tell me I owe them because of the color of their skin, their sex or whatever...... I tell them to go f-off. I owe noone anything and they owe me nothing.

However, the government owes the people to give the best education possible to all so that all may advance so that the tax burden is spread out more equally. What we spend in education the most positive resource government can give a person...... will come back in time exponentially.
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