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Superbelt · 07-25-2005, 01:21 PM

Ustwo is right, diplomacy didn't start in 2001.

But when did it start?
Did it start when we propped up Iran's Shah? Did it start when we helped Saddam rise to power and had him use Iraq as a weapon against Iran for no better reason than we were pissed that they overthrew the brutal regime backed by us? Did it start when we forged our long standing affair with the Saudi royal family where we protected them from the Arabian people they were opporessing for influence over their oil reserves? Did it start recently when we decided that a strategic alliance with Islam Karimov was more important than the suffering of the Uzbeki people? Did it start with Laurent Kabila, General Sani Abacha, General Suharto, Qaddafi, Saddat, Mubarak, King Hussein, King Abdullah, or Musharraf?

Yes, we have a long illustrious history of diplomacy in the middle east. Unfortunately it is not with the muslim people, it's with the people who oppress them.

Btw, everything in bold... Study our relationship with THAT, and then you can understand this.
Not saying this is all one way our fault, but that there is the catalyst.

07-25-2005, 01:21 PM	#28 (permalink)
Superbelt This vexes me. I am terribly vexed. Location: Grantville, Pa	Ustwo is right, diplomacy didn't start in 2001. But when did it start? Did it start when we propped up Iran's Shah? Did it start when we helped Saddam rise to power and had him use Iraq as a weapon against Iran for no better reason than we were pissed that they overthrew the brutal regime backed by us? Did it start when we forged our long standing affair with the Saudi royal family where we protected them from the Arabian people they were opporessing for influence over their oil reserves? Did it start recently when we decided that a strategic alliance with Islam Karimov was more important than the suffering of the Uzbeki people? Did it start with Laurent Kabila, General Sani Abacha, General Suharto, Qaddafi, Saddat, Mubarak, King Hussein, King Abdullah, or Musharraf? Yes, we have a long illustrious history of diplomacy in the middle east. Unfortunately it is not with the muslim people, it's with the people who oppress them. Btw, everything in bold... Study our relationship with THAT, and then you can understand this. Not saying this is all one way our fault, but that there is the catalyst.