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Originally Posted by moosenose
Ask a devout muslim (not a fundamentalist terrorist, just a devout muslim) if they want the West to live under Islamic law. They don't see it as enslaving us, they see it as "saving our souls". And yeah, Islam has a strong prostheletizing message to it...either through "peaceful" conversions, or through killing the infidels.
"Religion of peace", my ass.
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you can ask me if you like (raises hand). i dont consider myself devout in all sense of the term, but im a religious muslim living in a western government.
do i want the west to live under islamic law? hell no! im comfortable living here in oz.
why would make you think devout muslims or any muslim for that matter (barring a few extremists) would want to make you live under islamic rule? just because a few nutcases say it, doesnt mean we all think this way.
also, say for example that islamic rule was enforced on a western nation, there is no compulsion for anyone to become a muslim. just because you grow a beard and look outwardly muslim doesnt make you a muslim either. good character, morals and being a kind and charitable person starts to make you a good muslim.
in reference to you "religion of peace my ass" comment, i find that extremely offensive that you would be so shallow. i could also say that christianity was and sometimess till is a violent religion based on what the crusaders did in spain and palestine, or that hitler exterminated the jews after setting up his own christian church, or that the extermination of bosnian muslims in srebrenica by the serbs was religion based. but i wont stoop that low, because i dont judge the religion by the actions of a few.