In another thread, zen_tom has put this well:
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I'm not arguing for us in the west to concede anything, I just think our tactics have been counter-productive. As a citizen of the west, I want to see us 'win' in this battle of ideologies - and I don't see our use of millitary action helping us achieve that goal.
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I too want to see us win. I don't cede the argument that so-called lefties have, "aided and abetted the enemy more than Tokyo Rose".
I think what is trying to be discussed here is: Is there another way to approach the problem of Terrorism?
I think many of us here feel there is. I think many of us feel that the current approach simply isn't working... or better put, won't provide any lasting soloutions.