pan6467

I start by saying some of your arguments I just find silly and you wanting to make a point just to argue. (I admit I am guilty of this also.)

I think you miss my point. I stated at the beginning of this that some 40 years ago it was just a warning and then the cigarette Nazis took over.

So you are saying EVERY cop that allows someone to ride my ass as we pass him is bad? I never even insinuated that, I simply said if they were truly worried about my welfare they wouldn't allow that to happen.

Do I support the FDA, I support what the FDA was once, now I am very weary of their decisions. I find having companies police themselves and not have independant researchers is eventually the death of the agency.

Silly.

Silly. But driving is not covered in the Constitution, neither is landownership really. Neither is anything mentioning pay, use of a telephone, cable, computer or any utility, nor is there mention of marriage, drug use, murder etc. Very little is truly covered in the Constitution, the founding fathers made it that way so that the federal government would have minimal powers.

SUICIDE is still very much illegal. People who try are often locked up, whether in jail or a mental hospital for some time. Ask the people trying Euthanasia by themselves or assisted suicides (which should be legal) how legal suicide is.

Good luck prosecuting the suicide..... but it is still very much illegal.

I think the contrary, I think where there were never even lawsuits considered this opens the door to massive lawsuits against the soda companies. People can now say the soda manufacturers knew the health problems and refused to give warning. One problem with the US is that people don't take personal responsibility for their actions. I am a heavy soda drinker, I know the risks and I know what it has done to me, however, I am in relative good health and what issues I have are not those of the soda but my choices.

Labels = automatic liability and therefore lawsuits.

You missed the beginning where I stated that 40 years ago it was cigarettes with labels and eventually look what happened. The same WILL happen to soda, fast food and whatever government can find to fill tax downfalls.

So let's tax soda fast food and whatever to where the people can barely afford it, then watch as more industries in the US go bankrupt because we have to regulate and tax the Hell out of things that the government deems unhealthy.

I deal with this weekly, in my job, (drug users hitting rock bottom sometimes wish to do harm to themselves) what's your point?

Huge difference between me talking to them and trying to stop them than there is government dictating.

Silly, in that I was stating that if it's not the smoking, the soda, the fast food..... it will eventually be something, caused by one's exposure to life. How you want to twist that to murder being ok, just to argue is beyond me, and not worthy of more comment.

I'm sorry I guess you missed where I said I would rather live to 50 and enjoy life than live to 90 and have lost all that I enjoy to government regulation and taxation. I don't know but I think if you ran a poll on here asking the question: WOULD YOU RATHER DIE AT 50 AND HAVE ENJOYED LIFE FULLY OR LIVE TO 90 AND HAVE GOVERNMENT REGULATE AND TAX EVERYTHING TO WHERE YOU COULDN'T ENJOY THOSE THINGS;

Have a feeling 50 would win by a nice margin.

So you are comparing soda to illegal harmful drugs, to a drug counselor..... Gee that's just silly.

Yes very ironic. And yes it is about control. I can assure you there are those (on both sides) looking into lawsuits and finding ways to tax the Hell out of soda, fast food and everything else, THE GOVERNMENT deems is unhealthy for you.

And it is more about making tax revenue than for any other reason.

And if you don't think soda companies have special interest groups already looking out for them..... then I guess you miss all those soda machines in school lunch rooms (which no, I do not agree with, but the parents of those students should make the call and get the school boards to remove them, not have government step in), in government buildings and so on. The government didn't just put those there freely and say let's serve the people.


It's all about how much government control YOU want in your life. I don't want that much.

I want a federal government that does their best to make sure:

the air, water and food I eat is clean:

that education is at a level unsurpassed:

that I feel reasonably safe that noone will invade:

that the roads are driveable:

that I can enjoy spending my paycheck how I wish:

that helps those who need it, and makes sure that retirees can afford to live and enjoy life:

that punishes those that rip off or do other people harm in situations like Enron, Tyco, Adelphia, organized crime:

a healthcare system on a sliding scale (based on income) that will not bankrupt the nation and provide every person without prejudice the best healthcare possible:

that ensures and protects those rights guaranteed me in the Constitution:

and that does their best to make sure the people have more say over government than the companies.

Everything else is regulated to the states and localities.

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I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"