Originally Posted by AVoiceOfReason

FINALLY, you get it!! (Maybe without meaning to.) The reason for a men's area is so to avoid creating a hostile environment and offending women as we discuss their quirks and seemingly unfathomable ways. And here I thought we weren't getting anywhere! A man that ventures into the Ladies Lounge has no right to complain about what he sees there--and the same would be true for women in that ONE limited area, should it exist here. If it's something that would offend a woman, she has no reason to even go there and be offended.

Why try to make men be women, though? That makes no more sense than trying to make women be men.

I truly appreciate the way you've tried to defend the indefensible here--as an attorney, I get called on to do that all too often-- and you've put forward what I think is the best face on the "it's not needed" position. If one takes the position that it would be only a place to discuss shaving, genital size and talking to women, that might be a reason not to have it; on the other hand, how would that differ too much from the female side of things? But once it becomes apparent there are other things that guys can discuss best with just other guys, then the whole rationale crumbles.

And still, it's Halx's place, and if he thinks it won't further the purposes of his board, even though it's a totally arbitrary position, then that's the final word, and I accept it. I don't have to LIKE it, but then again, I'm a volunteer here, anyway.