Originally Posted by alansmithee

We need idealistic goals, but we need realistic methods of reaching them. I was saying above that people need an incentive to form units. You mention above that there is outside threats to humanity in the form of "poverty" and "famine". I just got back from paying what many people around the world would make in a month for one meal. There were six in our group, one child who got a pizza that was too big (it was suprisingly big for kids food). He couldn't finish, we ate some, there was still half left. It went into the trash, didn't even bother taking it home. I was also the only one there without a cell phone old enough to have one (although one person there had 2, so there was an average of one per person). All of us have running cars of some sort, ranging from a 92 roadmaster to 03 regal in value. At the restaraunt we ate, in a outdoor mall, I passed a convertible Mercedes, about 5 Lexus, one late-model Corvette, and about 1,000,000 various SUV's. What is my point in all this? Obviously in at least one country, poverty (true poverty) and famine aren't rampant, therefore the outside pressure isn't being felt by everyone.