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Originally Posted by Cynthetiq
having gone to an all boys High School that went co-ed in my 2nd year. I can totally understand what you are saying. I can totally appreciate it because I have seen the differences first hand.
Boys stopped farting, scratching their balls, being sophomoric assholes to each other and started grooming, posturing etc. all trying to get girls attention.
But with the mission that Halx has here it doesn't seem to work in my head because this place is about bridging gaps not widening them. Putting men into a space of men only will only further the gap in my opinion. The fugly and ho threads are testament to that. Yes the women got involved which is crucial to your side of the argument in sayiing that they shouldn't have been to help that discussion out. But the premise was already set by the OP who used a derogatory term to women.
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But you assume that (a) a man wouldn't have done that and (b) correcting the OP was crucial. In fact, the whole thread was derailed by the political correctness police--the lad was asking how to work through the pack dynamics and instead got a lecture on being nice. That wasn't what he was seeking. He may have been chided in a males only room, but the focus of his question would not have been lost in the din.
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Note, even I did not decry the fugly statement. Mostly because I tend to see past the words and get to the meat of the discussion right away. But others cannot get past that and they focus on that as part of their discussion Its that discourse at that level that self-corrects the males that engage in this type of behavior. Males tend to not self-correct each other when alone with just other males in most of the interactions I've seen.
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So the purpose behind this board is to tame the male of the species? That is so demeaning to men, to suggest they NEED to self-correct.
What's wrong with men being allowed to be MEN, at least in one spot on this board? Women have a place to behave as they please; I've not seen a single valid reason why men shouldn't have the same. That is A place, not EVERYPLACE. There's no reason to think the men will go there exclusively, just as the women come out of the protective coccoon built for them.
There are many (in fact, most) subjects in which a man WANTS a woman's input, and vice versa; I just don't see the rationale for having a place where women can post freely without a man getting in his piece, yet a woman can post in "where's the strangest place you've put your penis," a subject about which she has NO first hand knowledge (That's a poor example of what I'm talking about, but I just saw it this morning!
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The AVOR bottomline--it's time to recognize that men can use a place to discuss things among themselves ONLY for many of the same reasons women like to have that enclave. It could be many men here aren't expressing themselves as they can best do so because of fear of being slammed by the PC goons that can't look past the inartful expression and into the core of what's on the poster's mind.