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Old 07-14-2005, 01:01 PM   #150 (permalink)
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i dont really have an opinion about the provisional government, in fact. i am interested in how things are playing out, but i do not work with the assumption that they are american stooges. sorry to disappoint, if that does.

i do remember bush et al saying that the war would pay for itself through use of iraqi oil...that seems to have been forgotten, along with all kinds of other problematic claims about this war. and i have seen nothing anywhere that this idea has modified. this is not to be blurred into a war for oil take on the iraq adventure itself--so please avoid taking this into a tedious area by not trying.

and if this is the plan, ustwo, you would think that there would by now be actual movement on it--so far i have seen only preliminary negociations/agreements in principle. personally, i think that it could well drag on another 3 years like it is now, more or less, simply because i doubt the capacity of this administration to eat crow on this war. i simply do not think they are big enough as human beings to do it. but i am even more sure that you would take a contrary view on this. and i do not see anything in the bushlogic as those of us notin the administration understand it (that would include you) to indicate that the americans are willing at any level to bow out of reconstruction to the degree i think they will have to in order for it not to be seen as a type of occupation. because i think that this withdrawal would be understood as total defeat for the admninistration, on their own terms, a political situation that would require them for example going to the united nations that in hand, saying they are sorry and trying to rebuild something like american credibility. bush nominated that fool john bolton to the un--tell me on that basis if there is any likelihood--any at all--that this administration will undertake what is required to back out of the mess it made so that it can be cleaned up.
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