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Originally Posted by guccilvr
No we don't know that <i>all</i> men are comfortable in this setting, but I'd be willing to bet that <i>most</i> don't mind at all.
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And the logic behind the LL is that MOST women aren't comfortable talking in mixed company?
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Again, no, most of the time isn't <i>all</i> of the time. But we would be foolish to start a new forum or subforum for every little thing that comes up.
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I complete agree with this, that main screen doesn't need to be cluttered with something that isn't wanted.
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The fact is that the male population is so great that if a male person has a shyness issue then it's dynamic to that person as an idividual. Females (while I don't believe they are any weaker) are just known to be more shy when it comes to this type of medium.
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I hope you don't engage in racial or ethnic stereotypes so freely.
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They don't know if they're going to get hit on, or do the right thing so it's just more comfortable for them to have a place where they can mingle with females. Since I'm a betting man, I'd be willing to place a significant bet on the fact that most women truly enjoy this area of tfp, most would say it's helped them in many ways.
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And I've said not a single word about taking that avenue away from them.
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Tell me in detail how a men's lounge would benefit the male gender and also the TFP as a whole and then maybe you'd have an argument.
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Here's a current example: In the Sexuality forum, a young misguided lad posted a note, calling a girl "fugly." He got a lot of grief from both sexes, but he'd have gotten less if he'd been in a "men's locker room" of sorts.
It would benefit TFP as a whole because it would demonstrate that it (as a group) does not think women are such shy flowers that they have to have special favors. The argument you put forward about men hitting on them is only valid if they never venture from that enclave.
Such would also recognize what we all know to be true: Men and women ARE different, think differently and express themselves differently. Most adults (Martha Burke notwithstanding) understand this, and accommodate this difference.
Finally, if it DID degenerate into remarks about anatomy functions, would that be so much different than what is going on in the LL now? I've not read every note there, but those gals seem to discuss more than baking cookies and gardening tips.
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The idea has merit, but not enough to justify a new forum. The rule is "if there is enough posts on a particular issue or ideal, then the forum will go up for consideration."
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My reading of the posts I could link to showed me that when the issue is brought up, it's given a backhand "oh, not that again" instead of being addressed as we are. If more debate was encouraged, I suspect more would be forthcoming.