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Old 07-09-2005, 02:56 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by martinguerre
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There's no prize for winning the race to the bottom. The point is not to fight by Marquis Of Queensbury Rules just because. The point is retain the rule of law, to not lose ourselves.
Yet that's where you will be racing, the bottom. What is the point of fighting to defend one law when if one is bending laws, agreements and moral codes to achieve one's aim? We may not lose the war, but we will lose ourseves.

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Originally Posted by jcookc6
It seems to me that the last time we were the clear cut winner in a war was WW2. What did we do in that war? We bombed the crap out of the enemy, made parking lots out of thier cities. Yes, a lot of innocent people were killed or hurt, but whoever said war was nice. But, we won the war. After the war, we rebuilt the 2 countries, and they seem to have survived.
There are very few if any parallels between millitary warfare and counter terrorism. For starters terrorist are not all united. They are not all part of an "axis". If one destroys a cell or captures their leaders terrorism wont stop. On can whipe out every terrorist in the world and more will be spawned the next day. There are no borders when it comes to terrorism. Terrorist can and will spawn anywhere. They can be of any nationality or religion.

Then there is counter insurgency, which is a whole other ballgame that is once again very differnt from a standard engagement between two armies.

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Originally Posted by jcookc6
If the politically correct left would allow us to do it now, maybe we wouldnt have terrorists killing innocent people, just to kill people.
This statement shows that you really should educate yourself and give this mater a little more thought.

If you are a concervative, you should be looking for the most effective way to achieve your aims. The fastest, cheapest and most effective way is though politics and economics. Look at the the success of the Orange of Rose revolutions in Eastern Europe. These are projects that took less then a half a decade to complete and cost a faraction of what a war would. War is the most expencive solution possible. Even if one does resort to war, politics and economics are required to stabalize the situation otherwise one will need to go to war again and again as the same threat re-emerges.

There is also a fine line between political corectness and moral principles. Are you stating that republicans are amoral or as barbaric as religious fundamentalists?

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They did fire the first shot.
Only from our perspective.

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