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Old 07-09-2005, 08:59 AM   #87 (permalink)
alansmithee
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Originally Posted by dlishsguy
alansmithee,

you seem to think that arabs and muslims desire to live like you do. some do, but many dont. they certainly do not envy you for buying cd's or eating cheap chinese takeaway. and i doubt they'd stone you as you walked down through the souks of damascus or cairo while u wore your nike apparel while muching on some big mac. chances are..they do the same.
I agree 100% with this. Someone else was trying to make the case that it was the western lifestyle that was the cause of these terrorist attacks.



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ts a well known fact that the west and eurpean countries 'raped' and pillaged the resources of third world countries. and its also a well known fact that they also installed these autocratic governments that you talk about. its also these western governments that put these dictators in place, who have been lining their own pockets, so i do see a connection for resentment.
But why aren't any other third world countries (which I don't consider most of the Middle East, btw) sending off terrorists if it's all the western world's fault? And in the case of Iraq, the US tried to eliminate a dictator that they did help keep in power, yet we see how well the Iraqi people have recieved this action.

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but once again the resentment isnt directed the western governments directly, but rather at the arab leaders.i have heard many a times, people wishing they could do away with the tyrants, but how? and especially how, after the US admisnitration directly supports governments like the Saudi regime. when the topic of regime change for saudi comes up, the US adminstartion is always careful to tread carefully.
Again, I point to Iraq. We DID do away with a tyrant. And yet there's still a great amount of anger, supposedly because of the very actions that eliminated said tyrant.

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but of course i cannot condone the bombing of innocents. espcially the latest tragedy.some may say that the WTC was a legitimate target and that the pentagon was a legitimate target for all that they stand for.
Some may say that, and those people should be condemned as the terrorist supporters that they are. Only a truly sick individual could think that. How any reasonable person could believe the 9/11 attacks somehow justified is beyond me.

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rightly or wrongly thats a contentious issue. however, the bombing of train stations and buses in down town london cannot be condoned by anyone, including arabs and muslims - partly because they have lived through it and know what it is like to live a life being terrorised.
So bombing trains=bad, but destroying skyscrapers=good because arabs and muslims haven't had skyscrapers destroyed?

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i have also met many people though..non arabs and non muslims who seethe at what the US and western countries have done to their respective countries. and rejoiced at the 911 attacks in secret. so this 'hatred' isnt exclusively for arabs and muslims, but rather its festered by injustices caused however long ago by western countries.
I have no doubt that no doubt that there are non-arabs and non-muslims who rejoiced at the 9/11 attacks. I have a feeling that some post on this very board. But that doesn't make them justified. And it's the arab/muslim countries that are commiting the acts, and continue to commit them, not these other people.
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