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Originally Posted by brandon11983
What proprietary format? You mean the vastly superior (and still very much in its infancy) AAC format? You have the option of encoding them into the piss-poor MP3 format if you so desire. There is even a LAME MP3 plugin for iTunes, but its still inferior to AAC. On the note of sound quality, it is a complete moot point. I guarantee you cannot hear a difference between iPod and some other piece of shit player when it is being used in its environment. Who really uses an iPod or some other audio player as a dedicated listening source? That's the only way one could reveal any differences. Take them both out into the world, downtown with car noise, riding a bike to work, etc.... you won't hear a bit of difference. iPod still has the ease of use going for them too over pretty much any other player out there. Look at any of its competitors and you see a mass of buttons. Look at iPod and you have a click wheel that doubles as a volume and scroller, basic transport functions (play, fast forward, rewind, etc....) and a select button. It couldn't be easier.
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1) brandon, of all people on the board, is claiming that sound quality isn't paramount? what the hell is going on here? anyway, i listen to my iRiver H10 (and once listened to my Karma (RIP)) at work, in a quite environment, for hours a day. the HP filter on the output of the headphone amp on the iPod creates a noticable degredation in bass response for the sake of battery life. not to mention its sound quality is generally inferior. the extremely customizable equalizer on the Karma is very effective for accounting for environmental and headphone variations.
2) for what it offers, the iPod is the most expensive player on the market packaged with the fewest accessories.
3) i found the interface of the Karma to be MORE intuitive/convenient than the iPod, and the iRiver on par with the iPod
4) life is easier with 192 VBR mp3s and without iTunes.