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Old 07-04-2005, 04:59 PM   #93 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by moosenose
Ohh, yay. I feel special. And NO, NOT in a "short bus" sense.


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actually, I was leaning more towards their FOREIGN policy. I don't give a rat's ass about their DOMESTIC policy, unless it affects their FOREIGN policy and how it applies to us.
This is a topic for another debate, but with globalization I personally think it's rather a mistake to have such a big distinction between the two anymore. Our domestic policy of minimum wage effects Japanese businesses that build factories here, for instance. But that's for another thread.

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If the goverment is domestically encouraging their people to chant "Death to America" while domestically providing shelter and funding for terrorists whose goal is to attack the US, THEN it's something that we should be concerned about.
I agree with you that if their government is harboring and funding terrorists who intend to attack our country, we should do something about it.

But I don't agree with you that Iraq fit that criteria. And even if it sorta did, there are plenty of other targets that fit it better. Saudi Arabia for one.

So while I agree that we need to stop those who would hurt us, I disagree with your idea that we are currently doing that.


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Annoyed? Sure, they can be annoyed. If you're annoyed, you don't send people Christmas or Hannukah or Ramadan or Whatever cards. Being "annoyed" does NOT encompass threatening the US. That's no longer "being annoyed", that's "committing an act of war". Subtle distinction there.
Need I remind you that our whole conflict with Hussein started when our current president's dad got annoyed with Iraq for invading Kuwait?





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We have a right to become highly pissed when they commit an act of war against us.
Again, no argument there. But Iraq hadn't done that. And that crap about shooting at planes in the no fly zones is NOT an act of war against us. That's a retaliation to an act of war on our part. Look at it this way. If Russia started overflying Washington DC with MiGs and backfire bombers, don't you think we'd probably be inclined to shoot at them? We first invaded Iraq, decimated its military, then proceeded to fly our war machines over their soil. They had every right to retaliate, futile though the gesture might be.


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So, by singling out me specifically at least four times before this comment, you're NOT singling out me? Why am I reminded of an Orwell quote here?
A careful read of my post will tell you that I was making it clear that YOU are not the only one using this tactic, that you did not invent it, and in fact that you are merely parroting it. In other words, I'm deflecting most of the blame off of you and on to the leaders of your party.
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