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Martian · 07-02-2005, 11:06 PM

Church - Nice Rage in the sig there.

I haven't seen the video yet, I'll see if I can get my hands on it. But based on the site and the footage in the clip posted above, I'm not in the least convinced. The video footage is too poor quality (dark/grainy) to come to any sort of conclusion and it's really not that hard to fake such a thing. The alien's movement is very jerky and doesn't seem organic in nature. Further to that, the website is the same old conspiracy theory baloney (to be polite about it) with little to no evidence to back it up. The author mentions documents that lend credibility to conspiracy theories about both aliens and JFK, but doesn't make any reference to these documents, quote them or even provide any reference as to the nature of the documents. Are these leaked intelligence briefings, some sort of communiqué's, what? And where did they come from?

Aside from that the supposed source of the video is inconsistent. This Victor fellow (according to the website linked) in one breathe claims that so long as the footage gets o uthe doesn't care if his identity is discovered, as his assassination would lend credeibility to the tape, but then refuses to provide any sort of proof or credentials for fear of government reprisals. That's sort of contradicting himself and seems to expect the viewer to take a lot on trust.

The idea of greys in general seems a bit far fetched to me, they're too anthropomorphic for me to believe they're an alien species; they're much closer to what humanity would dream up, a distorted humanoid form (which we tend to find more disquieting than something totally alien). Further, they seem to be lacking in motive in that it seems to me that a race sufficiently advanced to engage in interstellar travel and clone themselves as a form of reproduction shouldn't really need us in any capacity. Perhaps they're presence here is benign, but I'm not really buying. Further, they're (again, taken from the website) theoretically attempting to create a human/grey hybrid, which should be impossible. Any high school biology student should know that it's impossible to interbreed creatures of seperate genus's.. thus it's feasible to create a lion/cougar hybrid, but not a lion/dog or cat/rabbit (sorry, as much as you may want to believe that your best friend's girlfriend's third cousin has a cabbit, not only do they not exist but they're genetically impossible). A human/grey hybrid would suggest that grey's are actually a form of homo sapiens and thus genetically compatible with us, which sort of contradicts the whole extraterrestrial concept. They're not likely from our own solar system because if they're able to survive in Earth's atmosphere and at Earth's gravity any other planet in our solar system would be just as inhospitable to them as it is to us. So that again points to an interstellar origin, which doesn't bode well for the grey believers.

EDIT - deeper reading of the website reveals more pseudo-scinece along with a (very inconsistent) theory that postulates that greys are descended from or somehow otherwise related to dolphins. However, it's past my bedtime, so if anyone's interested I'll post a rebuttal to that aspect either tomorrow or sometime next weekend (as I'm out of town all next week).

07-02-2005, 11:06 PM	#6 (permalink)
Martian Young Crumudgeon Location: Canada	Church - Nice Rage in the sig there. I haven't seen the video yet, I'll see if I can get my hands on it. But based on the site and the footage in the clip posted above, I'm not in the least convinced. The video footage is too poor quality (dark/grainy) to come to any sort of conclusion and it's really not that hard to fake such a thing. The alien's movement is very jerky and doesn't seem organic in nature. Further to that, the website is the same old conspiracy theory baloney (to be polite about it) with little to no evidence to back it up. The author mentions documents that lend credibility to conspiracy theories about both aliens and JFK, but doesn't make any reference to these documents, quote them or even provide any reference as to the nature of the documents. Are these leaked intelligence briefings, some sort of communiqué's, what? And where did they come from? Aside from that the supposed source of the video is inconsistent. This Victor fellow (according to the website linked) in one breathe claims that so long as the footage gets o uthe doesn't care if his identity is discovered, as his assassination would lend credeibility to the tape, but then refuses to provide any sort of proof or credentials for fear of government reprisals. That's sort of contradicting himself and seems to expect the viewer to take a lot on trust. The idea of greys in general seems a bit far fetched to me, they're too anthropomorphic for me to believe they're an alien species; they're much closer to what humanity would dream up, a distorted humanoid form (which we tend to find more disquieting than something totally alien). Further, they seem to be lacking in motive in that it seems to me that a race sufficiently advanced to engage in interstellar travel and clone themselves as a form of reproduction shouldn't really need us in any capacity. Perhaps they're presence here is benign, but I'm not really buying. Further, they're (again, taken from the website) theoretically attempting to create a human/grey hybrid, which should be impossible. Any high school biology student should know that it's impossible to interbreed creatures of seperate genus's.. thus it's feasible to create a lion/cougar hybrid, but not a lion/dog or cat/rabbit (sorry, as much as you may want to believe that your best friend's girlfriend's third cousin has a cabbit, not only do they not exist but they're genetically impossible). A human/grey hybrid would suggest that grey's are actually a form of homo sapiens and thus genetically compatible with us, which sort of contradicts the whole extraterrestrial concept. They're not likely from our own solar system because if they're able to survive in Earth's atmosphere and at Earth's gravity any other planet in our solar system would be just as inhospitable to them as it is to us. So that again points to an interstellar origin, which doesn't bode well for the grey believers. EDIT - deeper reading of the website reveals more pseudo-scinece along with a (very inconsistent) theory that postulates that greys are descended from or somehow otherwise related to dolphins. However, it's past my bedtime, so if anyone's interested I'll post a rebuttal to that aspect either tomorrow or sometime next weekend (as I'm out of town all next week). __________________ I wake up in the morning more tired than before I slept I get through cryin' and I'm sadder than before I wept I get through thinkin' now, and the thoughts have left my head I get through speakin' and I can't remember, not a word that I said - Ben Harper, Show Me A Little Shame Last edited by Martian; 07-02-2005 at 11:19 PM..