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Originally Posted by moosenose
You can't have it both ways. Either the US needs to play "World Police", or we don't. If we DON'T, then whenever somebody foreign does something we don't think is kosher to us, expect us to bomb them. Why? Because it's the only way we'll have left to change their minds. America has tried to help damn near EVERYBODY on the planet at one point or another. You don't get the carrot without the stick. And frankly, the carrot is looking kinda wilted now...
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Precisely, you can't have it both ways. If we want to be a global power for justice, which would be the only justification for the clusterfucks we have generated in the countries I cited, then we need to act in a global context. That would mean, at the very least, listening to and weighing the concerns of the global community. Kerry (who is a douchebag but for whom I voted anyway), mentioned a global test, to Karl Rove's unholy glee, but that is just what he was talking about
: If we want to play world police, and apparently we have wanted to do so, then we need to attend to the fraud, embezzlement, and thievery as well as the murder, burglary, and domestic disturbances. Unfortunately, we seem to be dealing only with the latter, which are largely foreign in origin, rsther than the former, much of which (not all, but a goodly chunk) have their genesis closer to home.
So which planet are we on, my friend?
Incidentally, that was a nifty argument, but it works both ways.