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Originally Posted by sapiens
Are you arguing that conservatives use logic and intelligence to develop their arguments and liberals "attempt" to use logic and intelligence? Or are you arguing that both conservatives and liberals use logic and intelligence to develop their arguments, but liberals make the mistake of using the guise (for lack of a better word) of logic and intelligence to communicate their message to "the masses? Both positions may be equally flawed, but conservatives don't pretend that their positions and logical and intelligent?
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Very close to your second scenario. I believe both sides use primarily logic and intelligence in formating their beliefs, positions, etc. But through this there is some illogic, faith, whatever. When republicans present their platforms, they rely more on the illogic and faith to gain votes, with logic taking a back seat, but still present. Democrats often try to do the opposite. Of course, one stance has much higher burden of proof, and is easier to attack. So if a republican gives a speech about their view, when questioned their reasoning might be boiled down to "because it's right" with nothing definate about their point other than a shared belief in what's right. This isn't a logical view, but because of that it's hard to attack it from the standpoint of logic. Whereas a democrat might appeal to logic more initially, and be attacked on that point easier when their inherent illogic (if present) is pointed out.
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Discussions that involve using logic and intelligence are what interest me. I find arguments from either side that require the use of faith or intution frustrating.
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Again, that does not put you in the average.
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In itself, that doesn't seem like a bad thing.
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It wouldn't be, if they could maintain that standard.
Ill respond to your second post later, gtg again.