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Old 07-01-2005, 01:18 PM   #46 (permalink)
moosenose
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Originally Posted by zenmaster10665
Climate change IS occuring. Just because Rush Limbaugh and some conservatives with their hands in the oil-wealth pie can dig up a few scientists that contest this doesn't change the fact that global temperatures are rising at an abnormal rate. I went to university for Meteorology, I know that we are in a serious situation...besides, wouldn't it be better to err on the side of caution and the rest of the world rather than isolating ourselves further??
So, how long have we been keeping track of temperatures? Doesn't the Earth have a normal warming/cooling cycle? Isn't that what the ice ages were? You're looking at MAX a couple of hundred years of data, much of it suspect, and drawing grand conclusions which simply are not supported by all of the evidence. As for the rest of the world, they can kiss my...Democratic Party emblem.

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Ridiculous analogy. There are no viable options for someone to live in this society without petrochemicals. Our entire infrastructure is based upon it, from the fertiliser used to produce our foods to the fuel you put in your car to drive to that starbucks. I personally would prefer not to have a Starbucks on every corner, but that is for a different thread. There is no (logical) way of living completely without petrochemicals at this time...in my opinion we will all be forced to find a viable alternative when oil reaches 80 and the 100 dollars in the near future, but wouldnt it be nice if the US government were actually proactive for once??
Sure there is, I know people who do it. True, they live in caves deep in national forest land, and eat what they can find, but they consume almost no petrochemicals in any form. You say the government should be proactive. Where is the constitutional authority for them to do so?

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The US government knows that a oil crisis is imminent...it is even running simulations of the disaster....
http://www.menafn.com/qn_news_story....0GTu0nftKfssu8
The government warplays all kinds of bizarre scenarios. That's why they have a General Staff. Are you saying that ANY scenario that the Government warplays is actually going to happen?

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Just because the US Government (and the conservatives) close their collective eyes and pretend that things are not happening does not mean that they will go away...they only get worse.
Just because the Liberals scream and rend their garments doesn't mean that we're all going to die by next Tuesday unless we give them whatever they need for their latest cockamamie scheme.
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