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Old 07-01-2005, 01:00 PM   #42 (permalink)
moosenose
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Originally Posted by shakran
Look up your state laws. Many states make certain sex acts illegal. Oral sex is illegal in many of them. Anal is right out in a lot of them. In several (Va for one if I recall correctly) sex in any position but missionary is illegal. So yes, the governments of the US can and does intrude into your bedroom where it has no business being.
The reality of the situation is that such charges are only brought if there are other mitigating factors, and it did NOT occur in private. Why is this? It's because SCOTUS basically said that as long as it's in the bedroom, it's not the government's business. If ANY state tried to prosecute somebody for consentual sex acts between adults that occurred in private, they run the very real risk of having their state law overturned.

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Wanna bet? What religion is on the 10 commandments monuments outside hundreds of courtrooms? What religious book do you swear on when you're taking the stand in court? Note that our money says "in GOD we trust" not "in Allah" or "in Shiva." Who does the president always ask to bless the USA? This government is christian, it wants to endorse christianity, and any other religion can just take a hike. I have yet to see the 5 pillars of Islam on a monument outside a courtroom. . .
The 10 commandments are vital to three of the world's largest religions, and YES, they are still valid under Islam. And when peopletake the stand in court, they are given the option of "affirming" instead of swearing. "God" is a non-specific deity. "Shiva" is a very specific deity.

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Ahh yes, the typical irresponsible "I'm the only one that matters" response. I'd prefer it if my grand children and their children didn't have to deal with the environmental destruction we're busy causing right now. Just because it won't happen next Tuesday doesn't mean you don't have the responsibility to prevent it.
So you feel a responsibility to manage your great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-
great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-
great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-
grandchildren's lives? Did you ever consider that maybe they don't WANT your meddlesomeness? If that's the standard we're going to use, hey, the Sun's expansion is eventually going to destroy the Earth. WHY AREN'T YOU FIXING THAT???

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Since when, outside of Monty Python's "Meaning of Life" has a drug company EVER tried to do that to an American citizen? You don't seriously equate medial research to being disemboweled do you?
Ever hear of the Tuskeegee experiment? Didn't think so...


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Actually your party is forcing the issue. Carter tried to institute renewable energy solutions (solar, wind) back in the 70's. Reagan put a stop to that right quick when he took office. And now your party wants to push hydrogen powered cars, which are the biggest crock of crap to hit the automotive scene since turbocharged minivans. It takes more power to get the hydrogen than you get FROM the hydrogen, so that's not a good energy source. But they're pushing it because, surprise!, hydrogen comes from the methane found in oil wells. And it's easier and cheaper to get the methane than it is to get the oil, so the oil companies stand to profit even more than they already do. When you get right down to it, these hydrogen cars are nothing more than another sneaky trick being used to make rich people richer.
"It's all those evil damned Corporations and the Bourgoise, keepin the Proletariat DOWN. BLOOD IN THE STREETS! Death To America!" Oops, sorry. I was channelling again. Like I said, if you don't like it, fine. You are free to build the better mousetrap. If your work has merit, society will financially reward you for it.

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And I for one want a government that's less interested in that than they are in trying to make life better for EVERYONE, not just people with 7 figure incomes.
Oh, yeah, I forgot all about the concentration camps for the poor...How silly of me. In terms of raw dollars spent, what has happened to the social welfare programs since Bush took office? Has spending decreased over what they were during the Clinton years?
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