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Originally Posted by alansmithee
No, the reason most discussion between liberals and conservatives is hopeless for understanding is because they have largely different views on what is indeed good and bad.
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Originally Posted by sapiens
That may be the case...
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Upon further reflection, I don't think that liberal and conservatives have largely different views on what is good and bad. I think that liberals and conservatives agree on many, many moral issues. Even on those issues where liberals and conservatives are supposed to disagree, members within the ranks may agree. I don't qualify as a member of either rank, but on some issues I hold what might be considered a "conservative" positions. On others, I hold what might be considered a "liberal" position. I doubt that the ranks of either party are politically or morally homogenous.
Also, I do think that there are debates between liberals and conservatives that can be useful. As roachboy mentioned:
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there is data out there--there are arguments to be had about how that data is organized and interpreted, but there is data.
you can research topics that interest you--i can research them.
and if we are talking about information, then it should follow that that information can be interpreted and that those interpretations can be debated--because an interpretation is an argument about the data and almost never exhausts the data.
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. I tend to agree.