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Originally Posted by sapiens
The difficulty I have with any general statements about liberals and conservatives is that there are many of each on this board that don't fit the typical generalizations. It is patently untrue that liberals as a whole never recognize the possibility of their views being wrong. I've seen (apparent) liberals recognize when they are wrong many times on this board. I do agree that many professional politicians on both sides don't recognize the possibility of their views being wrong (at least not publicly). (That may be what you meant).
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The statement is (obviously) a generalization, but I don't limit it to politicians.
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Do you mean that liberals set themselves up as paragons of logic and intelligence when in actuality they're just like the rest of us? Or do you mean that acting logical and intelligent is a flaw? I'm guessing you mean the former rather than the latter.
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I mean both (at least in a political context, and with regard to logic). For the most part, dems/liberals aren't half as logical and intelligent as they think themselves to be.
And as for the latter interpretation, a convincing argument need not be logical. That is one of the reasons that dems fail, and leads into my next point about faith.
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Also, what do you mean by Do you mean that there is more room for religious individuals in the Republican party? Or do you mean that it's easier to just trust your leaders and not question them in the Republican party? Again, I'm guessing that you mean the former rather than the later. But either way, this statement about liberals seems to suggest that faith is bad.
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What I meant by faith is a belief that isn't necessarily supported fully by logic. At first, I had thought intution might be a better word, and it still might be in hindsight. Republican arguments are often more easily accepted by their faithful and those without affiliation because they allow for more feeling and instinct. Like the war in Iraq-even though the Bush admin gave many reasons for the Iraqi invasion, many people ignore those because they feel that the invasion was a good thing to do. They don't need long logically thought out reassons, it's just something they feel. Getting rid of a sadistic dictator=good.
The problem arrises when many liberals behave the same way because they dont seem to allow for the same intuition in their arguments. So they are easier to discredit in many people's eyes.
Notice that I never said which is a "better" approach, but merely that one is more effective.