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Originally Posted by alansmithee
You leave out the possibility that people find republican arguments sound and convincing, and democratic arguments silly (when they have an actual argument, and aren't just saying whatever is the opposite of what a republican said). That could be another reason "stuff like that" convinces people.
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Well when they're continuing to push the idea that Iraq was dangerous (no WMDs) and had something to do with 9/11 (they didn't) anyone who finds it sound and convincing hasn't checked the facts and is only listening to the republican arguments. That's what I'm fighting against.
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I wonder if you would go to the same lengths to stop democratic propaganda.
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I would and I have. There are several threads in this fourm where I've come out and said something or other the democrats have said or done is utter crap. Don't misunderstand me here - I'm no fan of the democrats. They've got a better idea for what is good for the country but they're unwilling to take a firm stand, make a plan, and stick to it. This wishy washy crap they pull pisses me off no end, as does their unwillingness to defend themselves. Frankly if a viable candidate from any other party than the two major ones were to run I'd be rooting for that one.
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One of the main problems I have with how dems/liberals think, is that for all their claims of logic and thought, they don't recognise even the possibility of their views being wrong.
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And republicans do? Hell even faced with mountains of evidence Bush supporters are still claiming Saddam had something to do with 9/11. They still believe what the president says even though he's been caught in so many other lies.
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Their ideas/slogans/propaganda get elevated to unshakable truths and dogma that any religious institution would be proud of in it's followers.
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Actually that's where you're the most wrong, and it's the biggest problem for the dems. They're TOO willing to hear the other side. The republicans have grabbed power (again) because they picked a message and they stick with it.
It's not a message I agree with, but it's a lot easier for people to follow a leader who says one thing over and over again and never changes the core message (even when he has to change all the justifications for that core message dozens of time - see "justification for war on Iraq") than it is to follow a leader who vascillates and never takes a firm stand on hardly anything.
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This is also true in many conservatives/republicans, but they have a different approach to how they attempt to communicate. They don't set themselves up as paragons of logic and intelligence; they seem to allow for more faith into following their line.
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Which republicans have you been listening to, becasue that's simply not true for the ones I've heard.