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Old 06-30-2005, 08:28 PM   #36 (permalink)
Mephisto2
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Originally Posted by Ustwo
I'm sorry that you are a believer of the myth that gun control lowers violent crime rates.
Actually, I'm a believer in the fact that gun control reduces the number of guns in circulation. That's a good thing in my opinion, and it was the goal, successfully achieved, of the buy-back programs in the UK and Australia.

Now whether reintroducing guns would reduce "violent crime" is another question. I don't believe it would. You do.

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The fact that you think removing 'guns' will lower crime is rather frightening.
It frightens me more that you believe introducing more 'guns' into society is a good thing.

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Last I checked guns didn't commit crimes.
Heroin doesn't commit crime. Cocaine doesn't commit crime. Would you support their reintroduction into society?

Training to fly a plane, without knowing how to land it, is not a crime. That is, it is not a crime to concentrate on certain aspects of flight. But that doesn't mean it's a good idea.

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The success of such a program could only be measured in terms of preventing crime and as such they are failures.
In my mind, the success could be measured in the fact that there have been no similiar events such as to the Dunblane or Port Aurthur massacres. But then again, that's just me.

Oh... and the vast majority of the British and Australian people. Let's not forget about them, eh?

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This discussion has been on the boards before and I won't go into it again beyond this.
Yes it has. And not only here, but also in the 'public domain'.

If you want to support the right to privately held handguns and automatic weapons in the US, then fine. Go for it. But don't expect me to believe you when you imply (or state) that relaxing the gun controls in the UK or Australia (or even Ireland, if you want to talk about my own country) would reduce crime. The people there don't want them, so why are you arguing in its favour?

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