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Old 06-29-2005, 07:57 PM   #117 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by shakran
In case you're not up on your history, the vietnam war did not take place in the 1980's.
You're right, it didn't. It ended around 1975, IIRC. So you're saying that the Communists in the US packed up and went home after Vietnam?

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He did not attack us on september 11th. The man who attacked us on september 11th is still running around free. He did not have WMD's. The justifications used before the war were that he had WMD's and would use them against the US. He didn't have them, and didn't have the capability of hitting us with them even if he did.
Oh. So you are saying that we should support a war on terrorists that actually attacked us on 9/11, and not on any other terrorists?

I thought all 19 of them died? What kind of a war on terror are we going to have when the terrorists we need to kill have all died while attacking us before the war is declared?

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Why don't we stop worrying about running other countries and start running our own? And why don't we stop with the partisan horseshit? There isn't one true democrat out there who sides with the terrorists. Stop spewing this bullshit that we do. There ARE democrats out there, however, who do not hold a Rambo-esque view of the world. We realize that, while we may not like what the terrorists are doing, they are doing it because they are pissed off at us, and maybe instead of killing off our soldiers by the hundreds fighting a nebulous enemy that is in the end impossible to defeat, we should instead try running our own country, stop doing things which we do not NEED to do for our own welfare, but which piss off the terrorists when we do them, and start being a good neighbor rather than the neighborhood bully.
So you can say who is a "true Democrat" and who isn't? Is Sen. Byrd a "True Democrat"? How many more times does he need to use the "N" word for him to no longer be a "true" democrat? How about Zell Miller and Joe Liebermann? Are they ""True Democrats"? How about Cynthia McKinney and her crowd?

It is far better for the American people to send our military to Iraq to kill foreign-born terrorists there, at the cost of under 2,000 American dead in the past few years, than it is for our military to sit back and wait for the NEXT September 11 to take place in the US, with the thousands of attendant American casualties in a day. It's not like they have an endless supply of suicide bombers, is it? 19 suicide bombers killed close to 3,000 Americans on 9/11. We've killed or caused to be expended many times that number of suicide bombers in Iraq, at a fraction of the American body count.

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Spoken like a true world conquest supporter. If you want to take over the world, just say so. But stop acting like every other nation has to act exactly like we do or we're justified in invading them. It's time the US accept that some cultures have different ways of doing things, and it's time for us to realize that forcing democracy is not only stupid, it's not even democratic. The reason OUR democracy has lasted as long as it has is because WE chose it. Forcing it on other nations is not going to have the same result.
They don't have to act like us. But if they harbor our enemies, they become our enemies, and they have to understand that being our enemy carries a price. If they chant "Death to America!", they should be able to expect death FROM America. And their whining about it is just pathetic and exposes their impotence to the world.
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