View Single Post
Old 06-28-2005, 07:48 PM   #96 (permalink)
pan6467
Lennonite Priest
 
pan6467's Avatar
 
Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA
Quote:
Originally posted by maximusveritus: The politics board is just a reflection of what's going on in politics.
When you hear crap like this from Karl Rove, one of President Bush's top advisors, it's tough to expect anything better from the members of this board.
I know some will say that politics has always been like this, but I personally can't remember a time when there has been this much division. I'm sure alot of it has to do with 9/11 and I'm not sure it's going to get any better
.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Hardknock
You're absolutely right. This division in America will be our downfall as far as I'm concerned. Our inability to work together will continue to divide us, nothing will get done, and we will remain vulnerable. This board clearly reflects this as it is a very god example of where America is right now.

It is interesting on my way to Mansfield today I heard a little bit of Limbaugh and he was talking how there are several articles coming out that point to the partisanship and how people have never stuck closer to their beliefs and are becoming more polarized. I didn't hear it all and he didn't say much about it, but it was the most interesting thing he had to say in a very long time.

Of course according to him the Conservatives have never moved and Liberals are so mad that they lost power that they are the ones polarizing.

He did say Rove was right and started to quote Rove but stopped REAL FAST.

As I have stated in this thread and others, it goes from leadership down and neither side trusts nor is willing to compromise. Why?

Because those on the right who do try to compromise find themselves attacked by the Right and possibly out of a job (IE Voinivich and Dewine). McCain is the only one that gets away with it because he has such a following. They tried, I remember Limbaugh used to skewer the man and talk about how he might be nuts from being a POW. But it didn't succeed.

Those on the Left when they try get burnt. How many times do we have to hear how Kennedy wrote the Education bill only for it to be purposefully underfunded?

The Right seems to be ok with attacking the Left calling us Nazis, commies, whackjobs and so on. YET, when someone from the Left tries to the Right cries and feigns innocence.

The Right couldn't stop attacking Clinton over any move he made, yet when the Left so much as questions a Bush move, they are attacked, their patriotism questioned and the Right does everything to smear and change the subject or warp it.

Newsweek was forced to appologize because of the story they ran about Gitmo and the Right demanded that it was wrong and lies...... and yet within 2 weeks other reports came out from other sources (not all biased to the Left) and the Pentagon never denied the flushing of Korans and abuse in Gitmo.

The Right now uses Gitmo as a joke and says the world is against us.

Now I do have a serious question for the right........... after 9/11 every country in the world offered to help and do what they could but between then and now they seem to distrust us and are against us...... my question is.... what changed??????

The Right is so power hungry instead of working to change laws they go after the one branch that so far has been neutral and they cannot control as of yet, the Judicial. They are claiming how far off the Justices THEY put in are.

There is no doubt in my mind the Right works to divide so that they can keep power. When your party's prominent figures do not debate, do not argue facts, incite hatreds and even say they refuse to listen to anything the Left has to say, you cannot tell me they are working to truly better the country and bring us all together as Americans.

This all trickles down, especially when you have people like Limbaugh, Coulter, Beck, Hannity, O'Reilly and even the politicians egging their followers on to literally hate anyone with differing viewpoints. Who do the Dems have that can be heard everyday nationally doing the same thing????? NOONE.... Dean may get blurbs every so often, but the Right get to pound EVERYDAY with no competition.

You go to a party and you act like a king and demand everyone do as you tell them and you'll find yourself isolated and probably kicked out real fast..... that is what the Right is doing not only to the Left but to the rest of the international community...... and yes, it will be what destroys us..... because we are no longer looking at each other as brothers and fellow American citizens equal under government, law and God, but we see each other now as left or right and if you are on the wrong side you are hated and bullied.

Is that truly what America is about? Not understanding each other, not showing each other respect and trying to work together but out to destroy those who in our minds are now our enemies because they have differing viewpoints and ideas.

If that is what America has come to....... then perhaps I need to move to a BETTER MORE TOLERANT NATION.
__________________
I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"

Last edited by pan6467; 06-28-2005 at 07:50 PM..
pan6467 is offline  
 

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360