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Old 06-22-2005, 01:15 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by AVoiceOfReason
That said, Gagne was at least as valuable as any other closer at the time the contract was signed, and that's the only fair way to judge if the contract was good--at the time it was signed, not after he gets hurt.
Yes and if you base it off of what other closers got paid and their effectiveness it makes the deal look much, much worse. Look at the top closers from 2004:

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Player	Team	SV	SVO	BS	%	ERA	2004	2005
Gagne	LA	45	47	2	95.7%	2.19	$5,000,000 	$8,000,000 
Takatsu	CWS	19	20	1	95.0%	2.31	$750,000 	$2,525,000 
Nathan	Min	44	47	3	93.6%	1.62	$440,000 	$2,100,000 
Rivera	NYY	53	57	4	93.0%	1.94	$10,890,000 	$10,500,000 
Benitez	Fla	47	51	4	92.2%	1.29	$3,500,000 	$4,771,206 
Hoffman	SD	41	45	4	91.1%	2.30	$2,500,000 	$5,000,000 
Baez	TB	30	33	3	90.9%	3.57	$1,750,000 	$3,750,000 
Cordero	Tex	49	54	5	90.7%	2.13	$2,000,000 	$3,875,000 
Smoltz	Atl	44	49	5	89.8%	2.76	$11,666,667 	$9,000,000 
Mesa	Pit	43	48	5	89.6%	3.25	$800,000 	$2,000,000 
Frasor	Tor	17	19	2	89.5%	4.08	$300,000 	$332,500 
Kolb	Mil	39	44	5	88.6%	2.98	$1,500,000 	$3,400,000 
Lidge	Hou	29	33	4	87.9%	1.90	$360,000 	$500,000 
Urbina	Det	21	24	3	87.5%	4.50	$4,000,000 	$4,000,000 
Isrin	StL	47	54	7	87.0%	2.87	$7,750,000 	$8,250,000
The going rate was about $4.5M this offseason. They gave him twice the market value for a marginal improvement over the other top closers.

dylanmarsh:
The 2001 and 2003 Yankees would disagree. Distasters like Matt Mantei, Robb Nen, and Troy Percival also show that you shouldn't devote 10% of the team's budget to a guy that throws only when the team is winning by a small margin.
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