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Old 06-21-2005, 04:27 PM   #41 (permalink)
filtherton
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Originally Posted by TM875
My mother would probably shoot back at you with something far wittier.
Not if my cock was in her mouth. Words are words, right? Just let me know when you get offended, i'll apologize.

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I believe that labels, regardless of what they are, are pointless and a person has no need to get upset by them. There is nothing that you could call me (in the lingustic sense of the word) that would upset me. The intent that you have behind it, though, is different.
Just because you believe that someone need not be upset by your actions (words are actions too), doesn't mean they don't have the right to be justifiably offended by your words. You don't get to choose how people interpret what you say. It doesn't make any sense for you to say insensitive shit, and then blame someone else for your inability to communicate effectively.

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For example, in college if my buddy wanted to spend the night with some woman in our room, and I needed to wake up early the next day, a comment of "bros before hos, dude" would make him think twice and change his actions in order to support his friend (who has known him, and been there for him, far longer than this random chick that he picked up). However, used in the context of, oh I don't know, maybe referring to his wife , then it would be different and possibly offensive.
I understand the context. What is unclear to me is how you find it justifiable to call some girl you probably know very little about a ho. If i were your "bro" in that situation, i'd probably tell you to fuck off if you came at me like that. Whatever happened to "bros getting laid before bros needing to get up early"? Perhaps things would be simpler if you were to say, explain your position and why it would be favorable to you if you didn't have to hear your bro have sex until the wee hours of the morning.

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Regardless, words are not offensive. They are l-e-t-t-e-r-s that are placed together to represent a physical thing or idea. Anyone who is offended by any word, on the basis of what the letters spell alone, needs thicker skin.
I generally tend to agree that the world could use thicker skin. Seeing you claim that words are just words proves to me that you've never taken a psychology class where trauma was covered. Words shape the way we look and think about the world. Read 1984 for an interesting perspective on the power of language and vocabulary.

The words you choose to use say a great deal about you. I hear someone use the word ho, and i tend to think that that person feels insecure when confronted by women who are comfortable with their sexuality. It's almost as if they don't know their place around women who aren't bamboozled in to complying with the norms of american gender politics. I'm not offended, just getting a clearer picture of who that person is. I would imagine that a person who uses the word ho seriously also likes to use the word dyke for lesbians he doesn't find attractive.

I would argue the word ho is nearly always offensive, because it is nearly always used by emotionally stunted people as a means to make themselves feel better by comparing themselves to a sexually promiscuous woman. Ho is a loaded word. It is a vague word, it lacks complexity. It is used as an insult by intellectually lazy people. There is no use of the word ho, except perhaps in an ironic way, that doesn't seek to belittle a woman based on her sexual behavior, behavior which just happens to be encouraged in men such as yourself. Ask yourself: Why do i feel like i need to make myself feel superior to a sexually promiscuous woman? Why do i feel the need to denigrate certain women because of alleged sexual promiscuity? Why do i feel the need to pay attention and make judgements on people based on their sexual behavior, even when said behavior has nothing to do with me whatsoever? Why is it okay for me to act like a ho, but not okay for a woman i don't care about to act like a ho?

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