Religion can be conisdered to be a form of philosophy. Philosophy suggest a way to live and a reason for doing so. Religion does the same thing, but often goes further into areas where philosophy cannot.
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Originally Posted by d*d
Science and religion simply don't mix, one cannot be used to verify the other
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Wrong. Science often proves religion. Science and religion DO mix. One must understand that religion says "what" and hints at the "how" but doesn't specifically say "how." Science says "how" and this "how" often coexists with and/or proves the religion. Science and Religion do agree, especially with Christianity and Catholicism. When someone says otherwise, it is often due to not having a full understanding of both. Rather the one that says they don't mix often has only a partial understanding of each, or a partial understanding of one with a full understanding of the other, or a full understanding of one with no understanding of the other, or no understanding of either. This does not mean that one must have a full understanding of both to see that science proves religion. A partial understanding of each, or a partial understanding of one and a full understanding of the other, both can allow one to come to a conclusion that science proves religion. But those with a full understanding of both are much more likely to state that science proves relgion, and not the other way around. That is partially why so many scientists and scholors who have tried to prove religion, specifically Christianity, and the bible wrong end up converting to Christianity. I am not saying that this is always the case, but is often the case.
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Originally Posted by filtherton
Though i suppose this summary only applies to the majority of christians who believe that god hasn't had anything important to say for two thousand years.
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As USWTO mentioned, God speaks through the Saints. For the Catholic Church, God speaks through the Pope. God speaks to us all the time. The comment shouldn't be that God hasn't had anything important to say for two thousand years, but that most men haven't listened to what God has had to say this past two thousand years.
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Why is Christianity the only one mentioned in this thread? I can see that people wouldn't question or mention Judism as ever since WWII nobody can openly question Judism without being classified a Nazi. Also, questioning the founding beliefs of Judism is the same as questioning many of the founding beliefs in the Old Testiment of Christianity. Thus it's easier (as in one gets to question both Judism and Christianity, and avoid being called a Nazi) for those questioning Judism to just question the Old Testiment of Christianity. But what about Islam or any other religion without trinity, or the religions and cults overrun by the devil? Why are those religions never brought into question? Could it be because they are so easily disproved when confronted with philosophy? Is Christianity the only one ever mentioned due to being so large, or is it the only one mentioned because it is the hardest to disprove with good philosophy?