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Originally Posted by Hardknock
That's all good, in theory. Management at any company will never make concessions. They demand it out of their employees and hide the bonuses that they get when they do win those concessions. Even at companies that actually make money. Management still pulls bullshit accounting tricks to make it look like the comapny is going under, just to get those givebacks. Take me for instance, I work at one of the airlines that actually makes money, but management is crying for concessions. Our union has told them hell no and we might actually go on strike. They pull all the tricks that they learn from union busting consultants and in the end some sort of agreement is made. We'll just have to see what type of agreement.
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That is also why I continued to say that you need a government or non biased mediator that sees the books and knows exactly what the company can and cannot pay.
Unions have a bad name and they deserved it in the 70's and early 80's. They did prohibit R&D to the point import cars came in and took a huge market that has been growing consistently since. To the point steel mills couldn't build more streamlined energy cutting factories, appliance companies R&D was outdated.
However people seriously need to look into the managements now. We hear all about their golden parachutes and raiding pension plans and yet for some reason the people, who believe they are "uneffected" and as long as prices are kept low don't care, don't seem to give a damn.
Management is doing today what the unions did.
That attitude has to change, unions need to rebuild their strength, get back the laws that protected the workers who had the right to vote if they wanted to be unioned or not and yet, also show that they learned from the past and will be more policing of workers who slack because the union protects their job, not be so greedy to hurt the company and work with management.
Management has to get back to where they are not sitting on 5 other company boards and worried only about the bottom line and not the product they produce.
Henry Ford took pride in his company and worked to make it the best. As did the presidents of Westinghouse, Tappan, Hoover, and so on. They weren't worried about golden parachutes and outrageous salaries, they concerned themselves with making the best product available and in the 40's, 50's and 60's so did the unions.
My point is we can get back to that era again, but both sides have to work for what is best and not just try to protect themselves.
Good luck with your struggles, it is a shame unions don't have the strength to make sure management bargained in good faith.